[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date

[Paul Keating]

OK but could you please let me know the purpose of the marker?  Is it an
indicator that there may be historical information to trace?  Otherwise it
would seem that the domain name itself is the unique identifier and prior
registration would be known based on the presence of historical data.

If the marker is intended to eliminate the purpose of historical data then
I think that is a huge error and one of the overriding purposes of the
data set will be lost.  Current registration is rather useless in many
investigations without an understanding of the history of registration.

Thanks.

Paul


On 9/21/17, 4:16 PM, "Volker Greimann" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
on behalf of vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
>the original registration date in its original conception was a date
>that could be equal or lower than the created date, but never higher, if
>that makes sense as it would only refer to previous registrations of
>this same string or the current one if that were the earliest. If you
>changed whois informations, the registration object would remain the
>same, so the ORD would not change. If a domain object is deleted at the
>registry and then a new registration object consisting of the same
>string were to be registered the ORD would refer to the earlier
>registration of that string, not the current one.
>
>But as Andrew pointed out, we moved away from proposing a date and
>instead proposed a marker.
>
>Best,
>
>Volker
>
>
>
>Am 21.09.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Paul Keating:
>> So that leads me to further questions.
>>
>> What data element is it keying from to determine original status?
>>
>> Would it change if I changed the WHOIS elements below (e.g. My name to a
>> company name or my address to a different address?)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 9/21/17, 3:27 PM, "Andrew Sullivan"
>><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> on behalf of ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 03:21:27PM +0200, Paul Keating wrote:
>>>> Question:  What is the definition of ³Original Registration Date².
>>>>How
>>>> does
>>>> it operate when a domain has expired and is re-registered?
>>> The idea is to track the date of creation of a previous domain object
>>> that had the same name.  Note that some of us who worked on this
>>> problem have some reservations, which is why we have recommended
>>> something else.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> A
>>>
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