[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Asking for permisson versus saying what we need

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Wed Sep 27 09:03:01 UTC 2017


We should avoid any unnecessary work and cut our losses on any of the 
areas defined as mainly out of bounds.


Am 26.09.2017 um 20:54 schrieb Andrew Sullivan:
> Hi,
>
> I have read the WSGR memo, and while I certainly appreciate it I
> wonder whether we are going about this the right way.
>
> In asking the lawyers for advice, we stated a bunch of things that are
> already done and that we _could_ (continue to) do, and asked
> hypothetical questions about whether they conformed.  This is a
> plausible way to proceed, and I think it was not wrong (I myself
> supported it).  But I read the answers as providing the multi-handed
> (on the one hand … on the other hand … on the left foot …) answer
> that, were I a lawyer, I would also provide.  For the only correct
> answer is, "It depends."
>
> So, as far as I can tell, this memo rules some things we _might_ want
> to do clearly out of bounds, but that's about it.  What it does not do
> is give us positive basis for action.
>
> It strikes me that, when I go to a lawyer for commercial purposes, I
> have a list of stuff I want to do.  I then ask for advice as to
> whether that thing is legal, and how to make that thing legal if it is
> slightly wrong.
>
> I therefore hope that, as the next phase of our discussion, we can
> stop pretending that the question, "Do we need this data?" is somehow
> going to be answered by the legal consultation.  The answer from the
> law is, "It depends," and what we need to do is decide what problems
> we think the RDS ought to solve.  It _could_ be that the problems we
> want it to solve can't be solved legally, but I do not see evidence of
> that in this memo.  Once we have decided what we want to do, then we
> should come up with a way we think we can do it, and try to figure out
> (with legal advice) whether it's ok.  I think that's what the work
> plan envisions, so I look forward to moving quickly in that direction.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>

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