[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Blog re Session with European DPAs

Rubens Kuhl rubensk at nic.br
Sun Apr 1 12:52:26 UTC 2018


And while every group thinks ICANN is captured by some other group's interests, people don't notice that ICANN Org's only capture is its self-preservation, not the multistakeholder model or a non-fractured Internet. Leading by conflict is part of the mechanism.



Rubens


> On 1 Apr 2018, at 08:39, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
> 
> Roughly translated version:
>> Sorry for being late to the party, but- IP interests dominate these icann working groups and they dominated this working group too before the rest of us showed up. Even though the statement that ICANN makes its money from domain fees collected by registrars is very debatable, I am going to defend it nontheless as it serves my agenda.
> 
>> And registrars are always blamed for everything, so we will too. Even though the appearance of regulatory capture is unfair (which i am not the judge of and so cannot say), that is the appearance at this point for those of us that care little to nothing about privacy issues or legal requirements.
>> 
>> Its amusing to see the first comment on his blog is from someone claiming that it is not necessary to use whois for security purposes. While the same argument made many times on this list by many registrars here is absolutely correct, we will continue to belabor this point as it would require us changing our ways.  The author of the blog post is the vice president of RiskIQ. Fall to your knees and adore him now! Maybe he knows a thing or two about using whois for security purposes. Just maybe. Bwahahahahahaha.
>> 
>> If you google search for any other news coverage on this situation, zou will find that we have very vocal lobbyists on our side so most of it is pretty critical about the loss of security we are claiming we would be looking forward to, and critical of ICANN's procrastination, and so far none that we care about are heralding this as any kind of great victory for the tiny percentage of registrants who will receive significantly smaller volumes of spam. But as spam/protection is not the kind of security we care about and pays nothing, who cares? You might not like it, but that's how it is. We were whining about this for a year now instead of starting to think about how to do our jobs without relying on the violation of the privacy rights of millions.
> TL;DR We are right, you are wrong!
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