[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Discriminatory rds Data Privacy Standards

sivasubramanian muthusamy 6.internet at gmail.com
Sun Mar 11 19:06:05 UTC 2018


On Mar 11, 2018 1:01 PM, "John Bambenek" <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com> wrote:

Simple. You ask them. “Is this domain owned by an individual for
non-commercial purposes?”


Another way is make a distinction is to separate all websites that have a
payment gateway / that accept payments in some form.


If we find domains engaged in commerce registered as personal and
non-commercial, then we send a complaint. Sure, we gotta define commercial
but surely that is not hard. We use whatever taxing authority for the
jurisdiction says.



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John Bambenek

On Mar 11, 2018, at 10:24, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
wrote:

Please provide a workable, reasonable method of identifying the domain
names used in commercial manner amongst the existing hundreds of million
registered domains. Please also identify how this determination can be
updated automatically once the use of a domain name changes.

The fact is that commercial use is content. ICANN does not deal with
content except for very small and specific areas. ICANN and registrars have
no relationship with the content that is published under a domain name. We
certainly have no control over specific uses.

These details belong on the websites, as is provided in the laws in Europe
and other jurisdictions. There is no need to duplicate this in whois.

Volker


On 9. Mar 2018, at 07:49, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com>
wrote:

Private persons (including private persons in a public career or a career
of public exposure) need privacy. Why is this notion extended to protect
online commercial entities of varying ethical standards? Does
Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce have a right to privacy of its
Registrant data?

Their customers don't look for contact information from RDS, but in the
entity's commercial web site, but the information is not there. Many online
entities operate from behind layers of veil that separate them from
customers and enable them to carry on their commercial activity with
minimal or non-existent accountability.

Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce sells millions of air tickets but
does not seem to have a building somewhere, and/or does not have an
employee with a name. Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce takes your
money, takes your information without disclosing any of its own, and does
not have a phone number or answer email messages (operates through call
centers, answers email messages by templates) when you are stranded Midway
with a ticket that doesn't work. Yourcasino takes your credit card number,
yourpharmacy takes your money and medical data, yourholiday owns your
passport, and all these entities don't have an email address, phone number
or a building with a person.

Could we do away with this notion of (Registrant)data privacy where it
concerns an online entity that carries out commercial monetary transactions
online? That would require us to discriminate between private persons and
e-commerce entities, which would be a complex process - agreed.
Nevertheless, could we think about this?

Sivasubramanian M
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