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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear Members,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The tug of war with multiple perspectives on who should be leading the WG is indeed an enriching learning experience !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In my view, stakeholders who have previously chaired pdp processes may have experience but those who have not donot become per se ineligible or incompetent for leadership roles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Fresh perspectives and new approaches can spearhead a mission aswell with equal dexterity . While I hold this view, many may not agree but I believe in travelling the Road Less Travelled!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Warm regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Karnika Seth<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Holly Raiche<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 February 2016 01:44<br><b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com><br><b>Cc:</b> gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Please participate - poll on RDS PDP WG leadership team characteristics<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you Chuck, Sana and Liz - and indeed everyone for this discussion<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To me the important qualification for a leadership role in an ICANN WG is familiarity with GNSO processes and experience within ICANN of those processes. Those processes have been developed over time to ensure openness and transparency, and must be the backbone of any WG. And any chair or co-chair has a special role of impartiality to ensure all voices are listened to and taken into account. Indeed, taking on the role of Chair or co-chair must detract from that individual’s ability to advocate on behalf of their constituency since a chair must be and seen to be even handed, and very careful to clearly identify if they wish to put a point of view of their constituency rather than that of chair. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And to Michele, Stephanie and James’ point about GNSO control, remember, in the end, the policy advice that will go to the Board for decision does not come from the WG; it comes from the GNSO Council having reviewed the work of the WG and accepted (or otherwise) the WG recommendations. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Again, thanks for this discussion<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Holly<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:41 am, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sana,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Without detracting from any of the points that you made, I want to say that the GNSO has had WGs that were chaired by ALAC members and that they did a very good job.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chuck</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Sana Ali<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:23 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Marika Konings<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Please participate - poll on RDS PDP WG leadership team characteristics</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hello, Everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I’d like to say I have perhaps learned more from reading this thread than from looking through countless official reports. While I recognize the importance of both, I would urge that these kinds of disagreements continue to be aired and elaborated on for everyone's benefit. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='background:white'>"My original point, which James clarified far better than I had originally expressed it, is that volunteers who are not used to ICANN and its processes will not understand any of the political questions embedded in the poll, meaning no disrespect to staff who created that poll.</span><span lang=EN-US>”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thank you Stephanie, James, and everyone else for elaborating on matters of concern, it allows me, and I am sure others to develop more nuanced perspectives on what is being asked and what the implications of it are.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>"I am likely going to open myself up to some backlash here but I am of the opinion that we cannot allow GNSO policy development to be led by other parts of the ICANN ecosphere, the role of the GNSO is diluted when we do so and results in a GNSO that is not performing the self-control that it needs to do in order to fulfil its own mission. In particular when it comes to AC’s participating in leadership roles on a PDP like this I feel that it in some way violates the system of checks and balances that ICANN is formed on, AC’s such as ALAC an the GAC have the opportunity to provide advice to the board when the results of GNSO PDPs come for consideration by the ICANN board, to wish to lead those same PDPs I feel takes two bites from the apple, and given that ALAC and At-Large members are free to participate in the policy development process as decisional members I think that adding leadership roles to that dynamic complicates things massively.”</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I found this particularly illuminating, James.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>"I would be happy to volunteer to buddy up with anyone who would like some help to navigate the subject matter and processes that structure our work. I am sure others would be happy to do that too. The staff did a super job of providing an excellent tutorial this week but I think we need more than that…we need people to link with people to create constructive dialog.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thank you Liz, for this suggestion. I absolutely agree that such a buddy system would be very useful, and I thank everyone who I have interacted with at ICANN for being so welcoming and inclusive. I cannot claim that anyone has being otherwise. However, having said that, I really do think watching people argue about matters that I would not think to find contentious is a real education in itself. So please, let this continue!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Warm wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Sana<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>marika.konings@icann.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>not</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg"><span style='color:purple'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>