<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Apologies for missing the call. I will review the transcript. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Regards, </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-24 18:24 GMT+03:00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank">devtee@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Apologies also for missing the call.<br>
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Farell Folly <<a href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com">farellfolly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dear all,<br>
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> Due to time confusion, I missed the call. I apologize for that and present<br>
> my sincere excuses to all.<br>
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> I will listen to the record and review action items ASAP.<br>
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> Meilleures salutations,<br>
><br>
> --ff--<br>
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> 2016-02-24 14:03 GMT+01:00 Terri Agnew <<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org">terri.agnew@icann.org</a>>:<br>
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>> Dear All,<br>
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>> Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3<br>
>> recording below for the Next-Gen RDS PDP Working group call held on<br>
>> Wednesday, 24 February 2016 at 05:00 UTC.<br>
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>> MP3: <a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-nextgen-rds-24feb16-en.mp3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-nextgen-rds-24feb16-en.mp3</a><br>
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>> Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 24 February 2016<br>
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>> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group<br>
>> teleconference held on Wednesday, 24 February 2016 at 05:00 UTC<br>
>><br>
>> Terri Agnew:If you do wish to speak during the call, please either dial<br>
>> into the audio bridge and give the operator the password RDS, OR click on<br>
>> the telephone icon at the top of the AC room to activate your AC mics.<br>
>> Please remember to mute your phone and mics when not talking.<br>
>><br>
>> Chuck Gomes:Hello everyone<br>
>><br>
>> David Cake:Hello Chuck<br>
>><br>
>> Ankur Raheja:Hello<br>
>><br>
>> Aarti Bhavana:Hi All<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:mute your line if you are not speaking<br>
>><br>
>> Donna Austin, Neustar:Does Chuck sound very faint to everyone?<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Donna - no<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:loud and clear here<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:loud enough here<br>
>><br>
>> Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:am in the Ac room now<br>
>><br>
>> Norm Ritchie:Security = cyber security?<br>
>><br>
>> Elaine Pruis:may I suggest adding compliance expertise -registry and<br>
>> registrar.<br>
>><br>
>> Donna Austin, Neustar:okay, thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:Noted Elaine....thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Ankur Raheja:+1 @ Elaine<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:Was the intent to cover first responders? Incident<br>
>> investigators?<br>
>><br>
>> Rod Rasmussen:From a technical perspective, actually working with RDAP,<br>
>> whois, etc. in actual implementation - could be any angle of implementation<br>
>> - provision of the service or creating software/tools that use the<br>
>> protocols. We should make sure we have people who've actually written code<br>
>> and framed architecture around "whois" involved, not just having technical<br>
>> expertise in a related field.<br>
>><br>
>> Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:there are some Govt institutions that<br>
>> administer the internet domain in country, but are not security agencies, so<br>
>> Govt should suffice<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:@Rod - Are you suggesting an additional category such as<br>
>> software/service developer?<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:DNS technical specialists should also be a category!<br>
>><br>
>> Rod Rasmussen:@Lisa, You could do that - coding, sure since it's not<br>
>> covered, but what I'm trying to get at is that we want coders or architects<br>
>> that have actually worked with the technical protocols involved to create<br>
>> systems as a specific skill set. Scott Hallenbach type experieince.<br>
>><br>
>> Tapani Tarvainen:Which category (if any) would include anti-spam<br>
>> organizations/companies (spamhaus &c)?<br>
>><br>
>> Rod Rasmussen:@Tapani - looking for that category for myself! :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:@Tapani, @Rod - perhaps cybersecurity orgs?<br>
>><br>
>> Rod Rasmussen:@Lisa - Sure - but no biggie. Right now "Technical<br>
>> Security" is good enough for me - we don't need to cover the entire spectrum<br>
>> of job descriptions if we're going to bog things down.<br>
>><br>
>> David Cake:Public safety organisation is a good suggestion.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:We have legal/criminal -- I think that covers what Stephanie<br>
>> is talking about.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:That would have to be defense, because the other side of<br>
>> criminal law is law enforcement.<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:as long as it is clear that we are not just looking at<br>
>> criminal prosecutors...<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:That should probably be under "public safety," Stephanie.<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Private infosec companies aren't really public safety<br>
>> though, are they?<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:No.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:Public Safety is just governmental arms.<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Spamhaus being a good example<br>
>><br>
>> Kiran Malancharuvil:wouldn't privacy advocates ensure the function of<br>
>> limiting potential overreach of law enforcement? criminal defense wouldn't<br>
>> come in play in this.<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:I don't actually think privacy advocates can adequately<br>
>> take on the constitutional protections for due process in each jurisdiction,<br>
>> these are normally criminal defence matters, not privacy]<br>
>><br>
>> Kal Feher:I can see the full document<br>
>><br>
>> Kiran Malancharuvil:criminal defense isn't responsible for due process,<br>
>> constitutional law scholars are<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings:Please note that you can resize the document by using the<br>
>> plus / minus sign, or even use the full screen option (the four arrows in<br>
>> the right hand corner)<br>
>><br>
>> Richard Padilla:Morning all<br>
>><br>
>> Kiran Malancharuvil:weren't there two full comment periods on the EWG<br>
>> report? plus comment on the issue report that referenced it?<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:@Stephanie - note that question1 is purposes<br>
>><br>
>> Amr Elsadr:@Stephanie: We actually made a big deal out of asking for a<br>
>> new preliminary issues report (following the first one published a couple of<br>
>> years ago) to have the opportunity to comment on the final EWG report within<br>
>> the context of this PDP. Just sayin'. :)<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:Indeed, Amr, but the problem is there was not the<br>
>> amount of comment that the content warranted. Always a problem of course,<br>
>> but the timing did not serve us well in that regard.<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:@Steph, @Amr - see 2b as opportunity for community input<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:and yes Lisa, we will have the opportunityt to<br>
>> interrogate each use and purpose, but that is a different process. the<br>
>> global purpose will have to be threaded in each time.<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:@Steph - the overarching purpose can be one of the possible<br>
>> requirements, no?<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:Wait till you see the minority reports I refrained from<br>
>> submitting, Chuck!<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:Yes Lisa that would make me happy!<br>
>><br>
>> Amr Elsadr:Stephanie's dissenting statement to the EWG final report was<br>
>> included as a document to be reviewed in the issues report. A link to it is<br>
>> also available on this WG's wiki.<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:Cost requirements are question 9 - however this must be<br>
>> revisited during phases 2 and 3<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin:Right, that is the problem...<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:For example, phase 1 identifies what costs must be measured,<br>
>> phase 2 may ballpark those costs<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:We need to identify who's paying....<br>
>><br>
>> Norm Ritchie:can cost be specified as a requirement? ie, operatonal<br>
>> cost not to exceed x? Seems difficult to me<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:If you are in the Asia-Pacific region, I expect you are<br>
>> happy with the time of this call. Rest of World, not so much....<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:@Norm - requirement might not be $ value, but a requirement<br>
>> to measure costs associated w development, deployment, maintenance, etc...<br>
>> and a requirement to identify who pays<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings:@Greg - it is called 'sharing the burden' ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:Then in phase 2 those requirements could be examined against<br>
>> a specific set of policies<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:We will be happy to run the RDS. :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Greg - yeah you would be - we wouldn't :)<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:I would want you to be happy, too, Michele....<br>
>><br>
>> Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Whoah..., wait a minute. Paying for it and running it<br>
>> are not the same thing. ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> Stephanie Perrin: If everyone paid for access to data, it would soon pay<br>
>> for itself....<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:@Amr, the incentives are limited otherwise... :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Tapani Tarvainen:@Michele: we *do* care about making spammers' lives<br>
>> more difficult - we want that!<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Tapani - that's what I said (indirectly)<br>
>><br>
>> Tapani Tarvainen:@Michele - yes, obviously. Apologies for my odd sense<br>
>> of humour.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Mounier:Agree with Chuck we need to keep our respective communities<br>
>> informed regularly about what the WG is discussing so as to get input from<br>
>> them on an permanent basis.<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings:Please note that the 35 days requirement is a minimum -<br>
>> the WG can always extend this timeframe, or entertain requests for<br>
>> extensions.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:David, could you back off your mic please? You are way in<br>
>> the red....<br>
>><br>
>> David Cake:Thanks Greg<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Marika - thanks for clarifying<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Greg - you have colours?<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:I'm so jealous<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings::-)<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:I don't actually have needles bouncing into the red; I was<br>
>> being metaphorical.<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Greg - you and your metaphors<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:I never metaphor i didn't like.<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Greg - you might enjoy<br>
>> <a href="http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo3637992.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo3637992.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> David Cake:I am enough of an audio nerd that I could see Gregs<br>
>> metaphorical needles.<br>
>><br>
>> Nathalie Coupet:Yes<br>
>><br>
>> Rod Rasmussen:The approach is solid.<br>
>><br>
>> Alex Deacon:Chuck - i think the approach is great but we need to make<br>
>> sure we set milestones and all work hard to meet them. A challenge but not<br>
>> impossible.<br>
>><br>
>> Tapani Tarvainen:It is making sense to me.<br>
>><br>
>> Vlad Dinculescu:I like the approach. Very well thought out.<br>
>><br>
>> Richard Padilla:Yes with the approach there can always be some adjust as<br>
>> and when issue are different or complicated<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:I was just demoing the various emotions :)<br>
>><br>
>> Kal Feher:the approach is fine to me for now<br>
>><br>
>> Susan Prosser:Agree with Alex - approach is good, but need structure and<br>
>> deadlines<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Susan - that's in the draft work plan we've been working<br>
>> on<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:this is just the overarching approach bit<br>
>><br>
>> Patrick Lenihan 2:We are on the right track....<br>
>><br>
>> Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:The approach has my support as it is clearly<br>
>> well thought through<br>
>><br>
>> Tjabbe Bos (European Commission):Agree on the outline, but would like to<br>
>> stress importance of step 2b<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings:it is not 11.00 but I believe 16.00<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Yes - Marrakech is on UTV<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:UTC even<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings:16.00 local time<br>
>><br>
>> Marika Konings:See<br>
>> <a href="https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule/wed-rds" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule/wed-rds</a> for further<br>
>> details<br>
>><br>
>> Terri Agnew 2:Wednesday, 09 March 2016 at 16:00 local time<br>
>><br>
>> Nathalie Coupet:Thank you, Chuck!<br>
>><br>
>> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Chuck and all. Bye.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Shatan:Thank you, Chuck and all!<br>
>><br>
>> Marc Anderson:thank you Chuck<br>
>><br>
>> Norm Ritchie:ty ... cheers<br>
>><br>
>> Lisa Phifer:Thanks!<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:it's Wednesday here<br>
>><br>
>> Richard Padilla:Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Greg Mounier:thanks<br>
>><br>
>> David Cake:Thank you Chuck.<br>
>><br>
>> Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:it's 7am here<br>
>><br>
>> Vlad Dinculescu:Thanks all.<br>
>><br>
>> Roger Carney:Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Susan Prosser:ty<br>
>><br>
>> Michele Neylon:Europe is having breakfast<br>
>><br>
>> Richard Padilla:Laters peeps<br>
>><br>
>> Sara Bockey:thanks all<br>
>><br>
>> Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:bye<br>
>><br>
>> Patrick Lenihan 2:Thanks again!<br>
>><br>
>> Ankur Raheja:Thanks<br>
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