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All,<br>
<br>
Despite all that has transpired thus far, there is strong merit in
Kathy’s simple <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span>“bullet
point” approach to the determination of a desirable fields set for
Registration
Directory Services. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Work out
from the
Registries and Registrars to other stakeholders, only adding fields
when there
is a convincing reason. If this starts by casting a wide net much
time and
effort will go in culling out undesirable fields. Using current
production
language, we should be engaged in additive manufacturing to build
the field set.
We should not start with a big basket and spend time using a milling
process to try to separate the wheat from the chaff. <i>Oh! and
keep the process transparent and stakeholder "expertise" will
manifest itself. </i><br>
<br>
Sam L<o:p></o:p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><i>On 25/02/2016 5:17 PM, Kathy Kleiman
wrote:</i><i><br>
</i></div>
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<i> Hi Chuck, </i><i><br>
</i><i> I'm sorry, but I don't understand the starting point of
the draft work plan. It says that the "Bulk of Work in phase 1
relates to recommending requirements for Registration Directory
Services." After review of the EWG, it states that we will
"Develop a comprehensive list of possible requirement [sic]
(without a debate) as a first step." </i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> It seems to me that the first step should be evaluating
the data collected by the registrars for registration purposes.
The next step should be evaluating the purposes for which that
data is collected. The third step should be seeking out
additionally purposes for which folks not registrars would like
to use the data. The fourth step should be to determine whether
the information could legally be made available for those
additional purposes, and whether those additional purposes are
even desirable or useful (or are there dangers and concerns?)</i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> Jumping straight into "Develop a comprehensive list of
possible requirements (without debate)" skips the whole analysis
(above) that I understand is necessary under EU nations' laws
(and the many other countries with data protection laws) and
jumps straight into -- "who wants this data?! Get your data
here!"</i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> For the draft work plan, section 3 below ("Review and
discuss draft work plan"), I would start with these opening
bullet points:</i><i><br>
</i><i> - what domain name registration data is collected and for
what purpose? </i><i><br>
</i><i> - what specific laws and restrictions limit the re-use or
secondary use of this domain name registration data? (data
gathering, legal analysis section)</i><i><br>
</i><i> - what additional uses would people like to use the domain
name registration data and why?</i><i><br>
</i><i> - Outreach to the Supporting Organizations, Advisory
Committees and outreach to the greater Internet Community</i><i><br>
</i><i> - Deliberations as to whether these additional uses are
legal, possible, optional -- and what the costs and benefits are
of providing this data for the secondary purposes that people
are seeking it. </i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> On a related note, I used to program large-scale databases
on Wall Street and respectfully submit that the term
"requirements" in the first 3 bullet points of section 3 is
being used incorrectly (or confusingly) as a technical matter.
Until we do the detailed analysis of the key issues of what data
collected, its primary purpose, sought secondary use,
proportionality, etc, we can't possibly know or lay out the
"requirements" we are seeking for the new Registration Directory
Services. "Requirements" is best used as the term for the
features we intend to build into our new RDS system. We are
nowhere near the "requirements" stage yet -- we are at the
preliminary data gathering, use and user analysis, legal review,
and other preliminaries. Shaping, scoping, defining and
describing the "requirements" of the new system will come
later. What other term can we use? </i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i>To the other question of the WG, what "rough
categories of expertise" are needed:</i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i>I would add groups that specialize in free speech,
freedom of expression, human rights, domestic violence,
international journalist organizations, and groups that
specialize in political oppression. It is these groups that know
intimately who is being harassed, stalked and even killed based
on Whois data -- and many of them participated in the last
public comment held by the Proxy/Privacy Accreditation Working
Group. They are definitely reachable and in tune with our
issues. </i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> I deeply apologize for missing the meeting this week. We
had a death of a family friend and given daytime commitments, I
could not participate in the late-night call.</i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><i><br>
</i><i> Tx for your review. </i><i><br>
</i><i> Best,</i><i><br>
</i><i> Kathy (Kleiman)</i><br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
for the feedback Kathy. I will let those who were on the
EWG respond to what happened after London but I did insert
some personal responses below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes and action
items from Next-Generation RDS PDP WG Meeting - deep
concerns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Chuck,<br>
Tx you for the reminder for the last call of comments. I
would like to raise concerns about some of the items in the
work plan. My objections have to do with the focus of the<i>
</i>"Outline of Approach for Phase 1" extensively on input
from the EWG Final Report. The work plan, as circulated
(particularly under its "Assumptions") implies an
understanding and acceptance of the EWG Final Report that
never existed. Let me explain<b> </b>(and invite my EWG
friends and all present at that time) to supplement this
record:<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[Chuck
Gomes] Please tell me why you think there is an
acceptance of the EWG Final Report? No such
assumption was made by the Leadership Team. As you
share below, the intent is for it to be a starting
point.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><br>
<br>
Background: </b>the EWG Final Report was greatly changed
from the interim to the final draft. Not a little bit, but
significantly, substantively, clearly changed. Dozens of new
pages were added; entirely new analysis and recommendations.
The final Report was difficult, even impossible, to
understand. Long public sessions were held at the ICANN
meeting in London where speaker after speaker raised issues,
concerns and questions, questions, questions. There were so
much ambiguity in the text, so many sections that were
unclear, so many cross-references that were not complete
that even those of us who have been in this field for many
years found it impossible to understand specifically what
was being recommended and why. Further, there were major
questions raised about the large amount of data being
collected and retained, indications of nearly unlimited
access for certain types of users, and many more concerns.
<i>There were so many questions that commenters at the
microphone agreed we/they could not even start a full and
substantive critique of the Final Report because it is
unclear even what was being recommended on certain key and
substantive points. The essence of drafting rules and
technical policy is, of course, clarity and we agreed in
these public session in London that it was lacking in this
Final Report.** Answers were promised; answers never came.
The EWG Final Report remains an ambiguous, unclear
document. <br>
<br>
</i><b>No Final Public Comment: </b>Unfortunately, despite
major and extensive changes between the interim and final
drafts, and ICANN precedent itself, the EWG Final Report
never went to public written comment. (In all my time in
ICANN, which is a lot, I have never seen a final report
which did not go to public comment - particularly a final
report as complex, difficult, convoluted and
significantly-changed as this one.) There was no final
comment period for this report -- just a promise that no
group would ever accept the Final Report as an absolute
starting point; and that all future groups working with the
EWG Final Report would know that it never received a final
review, never received consensus, and was never even
understood by those critiquing it in the public sessions.<b>
<br>
<br>
Dissent: </b>Further, the EWG Final Report received a
strong dissent from the only member of the EWG with a data
protection background - the person who was a key drafter of
the Canadian Data Protection Report. Her <span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">issues and concerns have, of course,
never been addressed because the EWG Final Report never went
out for that final round of public comment and final round
of revisions. <span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[Chuck
Gomes] I fully expect and encourage the dissenter
(Stephanie) to add possible requirements that address
her concerns.</span></i></b><br>
<b><br>
Accordingly: </b>calls for acceptance and reliance on the
EWG Final Report should be much more carefully worded and
limited in the Work Plan than they are now. I know the Board
wants us to refer it as a reference point and touch point,
but not the only or exclusive starting point<b>. </b>The
work plan has references to other sources other than the EWG
Final Report, but what are they, where are they and who will
find and summarize them? Given the speed we want to work,
it is incumbent on the WG, at this early point in
development, in this Work Plan, to determine what these
other sources might be and how we can access them quickly,
efficiently and effectively. I would like to request that
the Work Plan include provisions for subteams to form and
Staff to help find, use and summarize these other sources so
that they will be available as quickly as the EWG Report
(and noting that it may be difficult for members of the
community to drop other work and write short White Papers.)
But it is clear that we need to fairly and fully pull in the
widest range of information and input at this critical point
of Phase 1 -- the RDS Working Group richly deserves it! <span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[Chuck
Gomes] If you think the wording asks for acceptance
and reliance on the EWG Final Report, please suggest
alternative wording. Regarding other sources, many of
them are identified in the EWG Report, in the Issues
Report and I encourage WG members to identify other
sources. Stephanie’s minority statement is one source
already mentioned, although I consider it part of the
EWG Report.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
my view, I see no need for writing white papers. What
we will need though in the early parts of our work is
for everyone to identify possible requirements so that
we create as comprehensive a list as possible. That
list will then be deliberated on by the WG to
determine which ones we agree should be recommended.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
Best, <br>
Kathy (Kleiman)<br>
p.s. In summary, I would like to ask Assumptions be modified
to reflect the huge questions and concerns raised about the
EWG Final Report in London, and the complete lack of any
final comment period on a hugely and substantively-changed
final report. I would also like to request that Outline of
Approach to Phase 1 be modified to reflect a concerted
effort of the WG, Leadership Team subteam(s) and Staff to
identify, define and summarize the "sources other than the
EWG Final Report" that will be used and what resources will
be devoted by Staff to collecting and summarizing them for
ease of use by the WG. <br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
On 2/24/2016 1:34 AM, Marika Konings wrote: <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below the notes and
action items of today’s meeting. I would like to draw
special attention to the following action items and
deadlines associated with these:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6
level1 lfo1"> <b>Action item #1</b>: All to review
categories identified by small team and provide feedback
within 24 hours (see attached)<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6
level1 lfo1"> <b>Action item #4</b>: All to review work
plan approach as has been circulated with the agenda and
provide any comments / questions on the mailing list
within 48 hours. (see attached)<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please share any input or questions
you may have with the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes/Action items 24 February
2016 - Next–Generation RDS PDP WG Meeting</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>1. Roll call/ SOI</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo2"> Note, observers have read-only access to
the mailing list and do not receive the call details. If
you want to change your status, you can inform the GNSO
Secretariat accordingly.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo2"> Members are required to provide a
Statement of Interest in order to participate in the
Working Group.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo2"> Updates to SOIs are requested at the start
of every meeting.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">A<b>ction item #1</b>: Please
complete / update your Statement of Interest if you have
not done so yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>2. Review of WG membership &
expertise update</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Small team has been discussing how to
identify current level of expertise<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Identified a number of rough categories of
expertise that is expected to be needed for this effort:
Legal (IP, criminal, civil), Technical (Protocol
development, Security, Audit), Data Protection,
Operational (Registrar, Registries),
Commercial/e-business, Non commercial/not for profit,
government advisory, law enforcement (police,
investigators, courts), individual internet user.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Proposal to put these categories into a
zoomerang poll to allow for WG members to self-identify
their expertise<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Small team would like to receive input on
the categories identified and possible sub-categories<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Consider removing investigators as it can
be considered part of 'police'. There are also other
agencies that are involved in investigations, maybe that
is why it has been identified as a separate category.
Should investigators (non-government) be a separate
category? This would include organisations like consumer
organisations.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Security may not only be technical
expertise, there may also be non-technical aspects to
it. Consider having a security category that is not
under the technical heading.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> DNS technical specialists should also be
considered as a category<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Categories are intended to get a general
sense of expertise available<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Consider updating law enforcement to
public safety to capture a broader category of
investigators?<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Should public defenders be added to the
legal category? Might already be covered by
legal/criminal?<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Consider a category for cybersecurity. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Experts can be invited to just join when a
particular topic is discussed - not only looking at
filling gaps in membership, but also identify specific
support that may be needed in an expert capacity. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"> Consider adding a category for WHOIS
software / service developer<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #1</b>: All to review
categories identified and provide feedback within 24
hours<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #2</b>: staff to
develop survey on the basis of the categories identified
and request WG members to participate<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #3</b>: small team to
review feedback received to the survey and identify
whether additional outreach is needed based on the
survey results. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>3. Review and discuss draft work
plan approach</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Bulk of work in phase 1 relates to
recommending requirements for Registration Directory
Services<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Use EWG Final Report as starting point, as
instructed by the ICANN Board. Substantial public input
was provided and incorporated by this effort. Not
restricted to the EWG Final Report, but an important
starting point. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Develop a comprehensive list of possible
requirement (without a debate) as a first step.
Deliberations on each possible requirement will be the
next step after developing this comprehensive list,
including reaching consensus on whether requirements
should be included or not.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Outreach to SO/ACs is expected during
various stages of the PDP, periodically as needed. This
outreach may take various forms, formal, informal. There
is a requirement for formal input at the early phase of
the process. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Interdependency of all eleven questions in
the charter will main that the WG may need to go back
and forth between questions. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> First five questions are critical as they
are essential to responding to the foundational question
of whether a new RDS is needed. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> No comment period held on the Final EWG
Report. EWG Report expected to be starting point - not
stopping there, just a first list of possible
requirements that the WG is expected to add to.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Should purpose be defined before
discussion uses? Purposes and uses are part of the
charter which are expected to result in possible
requirements (see question 1).<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Leadership team has started developing a
first list of possible requirements - draft as a
starting point for the full WG to review and add to.
SO/AC/SG/Cs can also be asked to add to the list of
possible requirements. Objective to have comprehensive
list of requirements. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Once this comprehensive list is 'complete'
(WG is of the view that all possible requirements have
been added), systematic review of the requirements by
the WG. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Deliberation of some requirements could be
deferred to later phases, if deemed appropriate. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Following this work, the WG is expected to
deliberate on foundational question: is a new RDS needed
or can the existing WHOIS system be modified to satisfy
the recommended requirements for questions 1-5. Answer
to this question will determine subsequent steps. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Who will come up with costing based on the
requirements identified? Is it possible to estimate
costs until you get to phase 2 and 3? Might be possible
to get a high level idea in phase 1, but you cannot do
it thorougly until you get to phase 2 when the policies
are identified. Phase 1 could identify what costs need
to be measured while phase 2 may ballpark those. Cost
impact expected across the whole eco-system. Impact
assessment will be important question.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Outreach to SO/ACs may involve those
groups to consult with their respective constituencies
that may take more than 35 days. Smaller requests more
frequently may facilitate feedback. All should be
communicating regularly with their respective groups -
bring feedback to the WG on an ongoing basis. If any
request for input would be associated with a minimum 35
day timeline it would have a significant impact on the
overall timeline.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Leadership team will work on the detail of
the work plan based on the approach outlined and
comments received.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Those on the call were supportive of the
approach outlined. Provide opportunity for those not on
the call to provide feedback on the approach. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5
level1 lfo4"> Leadership team would like to be able to
send out a first cut of a work plan by the end of this
week so it can be further discussed and reviewed during
next week's meeting.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #4</b>: All to review
work plan approach as has been circulated with the
agenda and provide any comments / questions on the
mailing list within 48 hours. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #5</b>: Leadership
team to send out first draft of work plan by the end of
this week.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>4. Discuss proposed outreach to
SO/AC/SG/Cs to solicit early input</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4
level1 lfo5"> Required to formally request input at
early stage, minimum of 35 days response time.
Considering asking for general input.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4
level1 lfo5"> Request formal input shortly after ICANN
meeting in Marrakech. <o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #6:</b> Leadership
team to develop draft outreach message for WG review.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>5. ICANN meeting in Marrakech F2F
meeting</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo6"> See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://doodle.com/poll/7f9h9spwwmys26c5">http://doodle.com/poll/7f9h9spwwmys26c5</a>.
To date 46 expected to participate in person, 20 are
planning to participate remotely and 5 are not able to
attend.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo6"> See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule/wed-rds">https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule/wed-rds</a>
for further details.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
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