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Chuck, <br>
If I understand your responses to my responses correctly, the first
step of the draft work plan approach will now be:<br>
<br>
- what domain name registration data is collected and for what
purpose?<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D">[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> First area of
deliberation<br>
=> if I understand your response, adding this bullet point to
our work plan and starting here will work well. Starting with this
question seems quite consistent with the mandate the Board
assigned to our WG: "to define the purpose of collecting,
maintaining and providing access to generic Top-Level Domain
(gTLD) registration data" (Final Report on Next-Generation gTLD
Registration Service (RDS) to replace WHOIS, page 1, paragraph 1)<br>
<br>
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<![endif]-->- what specific laws and restrictions limit the re-use or
secondary use of this domain name registration data? (data
gathering, legal analysis section)<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> This will happen in
our deliberation on each possible requirement.<br>
==> Chuck, if we are collecting data about laws and their
restrictions for each possible secondary use, then aren't we
creating a large amount of duplication of effort? As we know, many
registrars and an increasing number of registries operate in
countries and with registrants in countries with data protection
laws (EU, Japan, S. Korea, to name a few). The data protection
laws impose frameworks for evaluating the re-use and secondary use
of information. Understanding these laws and their limitations and
restrictions <i>upfront </i>will enable us to better analyze and
approach the overall issue of secondary uses ("possible
requirements") -- create a prism for analysis of additional
proposes uses -- and avoid a lot of duplication of effort. <br>
</span><br>
<span style="color:#1F497D">- what additional uses would people like
to use the domain name registration data and why?<b><i><span
style="color:#1F497D"><br>
[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> First area of
deliberation.<br>
==> Now we are onto the issues of additional and secondary
uses of the registration data - not by the registrars who
collect it, but by many others. <i>This is certainly an area
to which the EWG devoted a huge amount of time and resources.</i>
And I think when we get to this point, their analysis of the
worldwide community and how it would like to use Registrars'
data will be very valuable. But this is a step that requires
understanding other parts of the 11 "complex and inter-related
questions" of the Draft Charter that you pointed out to me (top
of page 70 of the "Final Issue Report on a Next-Generation gTLD
Registration Directory Service (RDS) to replace WHOIS").
Thanks for pointing that out - and I am glad we are having this
conversation of the order we might address these issues. I think
it will save a lot of time in the end... <br>
<br>
In addition, we will need to allocate time (a new bullet in our
work plan?) to analyze the risks to data collectors and data
subjects (registrars and registrants) of making this data
available to the users and for the purposes that secondary users
would like. That's an entire risk analysis that the EWG did not
have time or opportunity to undertake and to us falls this
critical process. <br>
</span></span><br>
<span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="color:#1F497D">- Outreach
to the Supporting Organizations, Advisory Committees and
outreach to the greater Internet Community<b><i><span
style="color:#1F497D"><br>
[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> We will do this
multiple times during our work.</span><br>
==> Great! Our work plan for phase 1 does not expressly
include the broader community outreach at this pivotal early
stage of our work (which is one to which broad input will
provide important insight and information). A small edit to our
work plan to add? Tx!<br>
<br>
==> <i>Overall, I trust it is OK to a</i><i>dd a few more
points to our draft work plan to better reflect the "complex
and inter-related questions" in our Draft Charter, and to
ensure that we don't leave out valuable steps in our planning
or work. </i><i>I think that was the purpose of the "call to
comments" on this early section of our work, and thank you for
the opportunity to comment. </i><br>
<br>
==> Regarding wording, I would again respectfully request
that we leave the term <b>"potential requirements"</b> for a
later time. As the EWG pointed out, there are legitimate and
illegitimate secondary uses of Whois data, legal and illegal
ones. Lumping them all under "potential requirements" this early
in our work seems both premature and misleading. As commenters
said - it's loose wording, and with all of our work ahead, it's
better not to be loose now. The EWG talked about "Users and
Purposes" and that may be a good time for us to use that term as
well. <b>"Potential Users and Potential Purposes" </b>might
work too. <br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
</span></span>On 2/26/2016 5:14 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<br>
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me make sure I understand what you are suggesting. Are you
recommending that we add the responses that I made (the blue
text below)? If so, that would be fine assuming the rest of
the WG supports that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Kathy Kleiman [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes and action
items from Next-Generation RDS PDP WG Meeting - deep
concerns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Chuck,<br>
While I am pondering your other questions, let me send
thoughts back on the bullet points below. We seem to be in
agreement, and have received support on the list. Can we go
ahead and add these bullet points to the start "3. Review and
discuss draft work plan"? It will continue our process of
clarifying and defining our work ahead.<br>
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To the outreach bullet point, it's a small but significant
change to the bullet point to include not only the SOs and ACs
of ICANN, but the larger Internet Community. If that's not
controversial (and I don't see why it would be as it's a good
idea and a past recommendation of the Whois Review Team), is
there any problem in expressly including it?
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Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/25/2016 8:27 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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For the draft work plan, section 3 below ("Review and
discuss draft work plan"), I would start with these opening
bullet points:<br>
- what domain name registration data is collected and for
what purpose? <b><i><span style="color:#1F497D">[Chuck
Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> First area
of deliberation.</span><br>
- what specific laws and restrictions limit the re-use or
secondary use of this domain name registration data? (data
gathering, legal analysis section)<b><i><span
style="color:#1F497D">[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> This will
happen in our deliberation on each possible requirement.</span><br>
- what additional uses would people like to use the domain
name registration data and why?<b><i><span
style="color:#1F497D">[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> First area
of deliberation.</span><br>
- Outreach to the Supporting Organizations, Advisory
Committees and outreach to the greater Internet Community<b><i><span
style="color:#1F497D">[Chuck Gomes]
</span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> We will do
this multiple times during our work.</span><br>
- Deliberations as to whether these additional uses are
legal, possible, optional -- and what the costs and benefits
are of providing this data for the secondary purposes that
people are seeking it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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Review and discuss draft work plan approach</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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Bulk of work in phase 1 relates to recommending requirements
for Registration Directory Services<o:p></o:p></li>
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Use EWG Final Report as starting point, as instructed by the
ICANN Board. Substantial public input was provided and
incorporated by this effort. Not restricted to the EWG Final
Report, but an important starting point. <o:p></o:p></li>
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Develop a comprehensive list of possible requirement
(without a debate) as a first step. Deliberations on each
possible requirement will be the next step after developing
this comprehensive list, including reaching consensus on
whether requirements should be included or not.<o:p></o:p></li>
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level1 lfo1">
Outreach to SO/ACs is expected during various stages of the
PDP, periodically as needed. This outreach may take various
forms, formal, informal. There is a requirement for formal
input at the early phase of the process. ....<o:p></o:p></li>
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