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To be precise, Steve believes that the review <u>should</u> or
<u>must</u> take place. He may end up being right. Or not.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 28/04/2016 11:54 AM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear all,<br><br>
Thank you for raising awareness of this pending review. I do not have
enough knowledge of the bylaws (or of the different Policy Development
Processes underway in relation to WHOIS) to comment here on the merits of
maintaining the review cycle versus potentially adjusting it given our
overlapping PDPs, but I would like to share this
<a href="https://links9.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/wHab0jdTK78RoGAmy?messageId=mB63clYst31h2ZFGb&rn=icmcv5ibuF2YpB0Z31CckBXLzRmct82cudmI&re=icmcv5ibuF2YpB0Z31CckBXLzRmct82cudmI">
email from Steve Crocker</a> today. Dr Crocker, speaking in his personal
capacity, seems to indicate that the WHOIS-RT will be taking place.
<br><br>
Best wishes,<br><br>
Ayden Férdeline<br><br>
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 4:18 PM, Gomes, Chuck
<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<dd>Thanks for the quick feedback Steve. I wouldn’t see the WG
spending very much time on this, but, that said, your points are
understood.<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Chuck<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>From:</b> Metalitz, Steven
[<a href="mailto:met@msk.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:met@msk.com</a>]
<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:13 AM<br>
<dd>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Andrew Sullivan; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next AoC WHOIS Review<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Chuck and colleagues, <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>I would urge caution about this, for two reasons. <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>First, opining on this question clearly seems outside the scope of
our charter. Some might wonder whether diverting WG bandwidth to
this issue suggests we have extra time on our hands that we don’t need
to devote to the task assigned to us. <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Second, it is worth remembering that the AoC review and this effort
address two distinct (though certainly overlapping) issues. The review is
about whether ICANN is effectively implementing the current system.
This WG is about whether the current system should be changed (or
replaced), in light of the purposes RDS is supposed to serve.
<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>When the Board unanimously approved the recommendations of the
first Whois review team, they established two tracks of ongoing
activity. The first involved improving Whois accuracy and accessibility
(i.e., implementing the current system). The second track led to
the WG we have now. The board, at least, pretty clearly
contemplated that both efforts would proceed in parallel. <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>None of this is to discourage WG members from weighing in on this
question individually or through other ICANN
structures. To the contrary, the perspectives of many
of our WG members could contribute a lot to the discussion. <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Steve Metalitz <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd> <br>
</b><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of </b>Gomes,
Chuck<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:59 AM<br>
<dd>To:</b> Andrew Sullivan;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next AoC WHOIS Review<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>I wonder if the RDS PDP WG or possibly the leaders of the WG with
support from the full WG should prepare and submit a letter to the Board
on this? Thoughts? It is definitely an awkward situation but one that I
think needs to be dealt with in some way.<br><br>
<dd>Chuck<br><br>
<dd>-----Original Message-----<br>
<dd>From:
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew
Sullivan<br>
<dd>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:52 AM<br>
<dd>To:
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<br>
<dd>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next AoC WHOIS Review<br><br>
<dd>On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 02:43:15PM +0000, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
wrote:<br>
<dd>> <br>
<dd>> Any WHOIS-RT should be delayed until at least 12 months after
this PDP is completed.<br><br>
<dd>I don't see how that's going to be possible. The proposed bylaws
won't make that possible, and as nearly as I can tell they are an
accurate reflection of what the CCWG's report said. If the bylaws don't
reflect what the CCWG-Accountability report says, there's a much bigger
process problem than the waste of resources and energy: many people feel
that a big problem historically has been implementation of community
instructions, and if we don't cleave tightly to the community
instructions in this case we shall have a serious legitimacy
problem.<br><br>
<dd>I agree it'd be wasteful, but I'm not sure how to avoid it.<br><br>
<dd>A<br><br>
<dd>--<br>
<dd>Andrew Sullivan<br>
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