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<div><font>Dear all,</font></div><div><font><br></font></div><div><font>Thank you for raising awareness of this pending review. I do not have enough knowledge of the bylaws (or of the different Policy Development Processes underway in relation to WHOIS) to comment here on the merits of maintaining the review cycle versus potentially adjusting it given our overlapping PDPs, but I would like to share this <a href="https://links9.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/wHab0jdTK78RoGAmy?messageId=mB63clYst31h2ZFGb&rn=icmcv5ibuF2YpB0Z31CckBXLzRmct82cudmI&re=icmcv5ibuF2YpB0Z31CckBXLzRmct82cudmI">email from Steve Crocker</a> today. Dr Crocker, speaking in his personal capacity, seems to indicate that the WHOIS-RT will be taking place. </font></div><div><font><br></font></div><div><font>Best wishes,</font></div><div><font><br>Ayden Férdeline</font></div><div>
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 4:18 PM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></span>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for the quick feedback Steve. I wouldn’t see the WG spending very much time on this, but, that said, your points are understood.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Andrew Sullivan; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next AoC WHOIS Review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck and colleagues,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would urge caution about this, for two reasons.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">First, opining on this question clearly seems outside the scope of our charter. Some might wonder whether diverting WG bandwidth to this issue suggests we
have extra time on our hands that we don’t need to devote to the task assigned to us.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Second, it is worth remembering that the AoC review and this effort address two distinct (though certainly overlapping) issues. The review is about whether
ICANN is effectively implementing the current system. This WG is about whether the current system should be changed (or replaced), in light of the purposes RDS is supposed to serve.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When the Board unanimously approved the recommendations of the first Whois review team, they established two tracks of ongoing activity. The first involved
improving Whois accuracy and accessibility (i.e., implementing the current system). The second track led to the WG we have now. The board, at least, pretty clearly contemplated that both efforts would proceed in parallel.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">None of this is to discourage WG members from weighing in on this question individually or through other ICANN structures. To the contrary, the perspectives
of many of our WG members could contribute a lot to the discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Steve Metalitz <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Sullivan; <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next AoC WHOIS Review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>I wonder if the RDS PDP WG or possibly the leaders of the WG with support from the full WG should prepare and submit a letter to the Board on this? Thoughts? It is definitely an awkward situation but one that I think needs to be dealt with
in some way.<br>
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Chuck<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan<br>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:52 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next AoC WHOIS Review<br>
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 02:43:15PM +0000, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Any WHOIS-RT should be delayed until at least 12 months after this PDP is completed.<br>
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I don't see how that's going to be possible. The proposed bylaws won't make that possible, and as nearly as I can tell they are an accurate reflection of what the CCWG's report said. If the bylaws don't reflect what the CCWG-Accountability report says, there's
a much bigger process problem than the waste of resources and energy: many people feel that a big problem historically has been implementation of community instructions, and if we don't cleave tightly to the community instructions in this case we shall have
a serious legitimacy problem.<br>
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I agree it'd be wasteful, but I'm not sure how to avoid it.<br>
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A<br>
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--<br>
Andrew Sullivan<br>
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