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    I would like to follow up on Péter Kimpián’s comments. <br>
    <br>
    Here is very simple aerial fly over perspective on the data issues
    here. I may be completely wrong, but history -starting with the
    European Enclosure Movement- suggests that I am probably right.<br>
     <br>
    ICANN has business interests in defining what data to collect,
    accessible by whom and under what conditions. It also has business
    interests, from within its remit, in the data relationship with its
    contracted parties.  <br>
    However, ICANN’s contracted parties reside within national
    jurisdictions, and the relevant data is hosted within national
    jurisdictions, so ICANN cannot unilaterally define what constitutes
    legitimate data policy within its business interests.<br>
    <br>
    This means that how ICANN treats data will be increasingly
    constrained not just by ICANN’s remit, but by the “ring fence” of
    national and regional polices erected around ICANN’s remit by the
    data retention and use policies of the rest of the governments on
    the planet. <br>
    <br>
    Some will brand this as the “fracturing of the Internet”. It is in
    fact other jurisdictions taking responsibility for Internet
    governance outside ICANN’s remit, but within their remit. While they
    may do this well or badly, it is more like “city planning” than
    attempts to fracture the Internet. ICANN will have to recognize that
    it is just another stakeholder in that process. <br>
    <br>
    Just as the other stakeholder groups within ICANN are busy with
    engagement in other national, regional and global policy forums and
    processes, ICANN will either have to engage as a stakeholder
    advocating on its own behalf, and hopefully on behalf of the public
    good, or it will simply tend its business within the “ring fence”
    build out of its own remit and the remits of others, and leave the
    rest of the issues to be dealt with within the remits of others. <br>
    <br>
    Sam Lanfranco <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/10/2016 6:23 AM, Kimpián Péter
      wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Totally agree with Stephanie, I would also add
            that every data processing must be fair and lawful and  for
            every each data processing activity the data controller must
            have a valid legal base. Therefore as already emphasized
            since Marrakesh the definition of the purpose of data
            processing (which also means data collection) is the most
            important task of the WG. The WG should present – I think –
            a proposal which clearly defines the purpose of data
            processing of ICANN and made on behalf of/or following the
            instruction of ICANN and to clearly state whether they are
            lawful and to which legal base to choose for the processing
            (for certain purpose data controller=registrar, registries
            will face problems if using one or another legal base in
            certain part of the world or even for data coming from
            certain part of the world) . <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">If there are multiple purposes – I think – the
            WG should be able to demonstrate the same for every each of
            them. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">In all high level multi- and bilateral
            international treaties (ex: art 12 of Universal Declaration
            of Human Rights) and in 109 (!) countries’ national (current
            number of countries having data protection legislation,
            being Turkey the newest one) law all over the world the
            processing of personal data out of the purpose of for
            purposes which are illegal or unlawful or even unfair is
            strictly forbidden.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:navy"
                lang="EN-GB">dr. Péter Kimpián<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:navy"
                lang="EN-GB">International Affairs and Public Relations
                Department<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:navy"
                lang="EN-GB">National Authority for Data Protection and
                Freedom of Information<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:navy"
                lang="EN-GB">Address: H-1125 Budapest,<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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                lang="EN-GB">Szilágyi Erzsébet fasor 22/C.</span></i><span
              style="color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                lang="EN-GB">Postal address: H-1530 Budapest, Pf.: 5.</span></i><span
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                lang="EN-GB">Tel: +36-1/391-1422<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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