<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I would add to this
that it also represents national governments waking up and
recognizing the need to protect the human rights of its
citizens in a global information society. High time.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-05-10 10:59, Sam Lanfranco
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:5731F751.8070909@lanfranco.net" type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
I would like to follow up on Péter Kimpián’s comments. <br>
<br>
Here is very simple aerial fly over perspective on the data issues
here. I may be completely wrong, but history -starting with the
European Enclosure Movement- suggests that I am probably right.<br>
<br>
ICANN has business interests in defining what data to collect,
accessible by whom and under what conditions. It also has business
interests, from within its remit, in the data relationship with
its contracted parties. <br>
However, ICANN’s contracted parties reside within national
jurisdictions, and the relevant data is hosted within national
jurisdictions, so ICANN cannot unilaterally define what
constitutes legitimate data policy within its business interests.<br>
<br>
This means that how ICANN treats data will be increasingly
constrained not just by ICANN’s remit, but by the “ring fence” of
national and regional polices erected around ICANN’s remit by the
data retention and use policies of the rest of the governments on
the planet. <br>
<br>
Some will brand this as the “fracturing of the Internet”. It is in
fact other jurisdictions taking responsibility for Internet
governance outside ICANN’s remit, but within their remit. While
they may do this well or badly, it is more like “city planning”
than attempts to fracture the Internet. ICANN will have to
recognize that it is just another stakeholder in that process. <br>
<br>
Just as the other stakeholder groups within ICANN are busy with
engagement in other national, regional and global policy forums
and processes, ICANN will either have to engage as a stakeholder
advocating on its own behalf, and hopefully on behalf of the
public good, or it will simply tend its business within the “ring
fence” build out of its own remit and the remits of others, and
leave the rest of the issues to be dealt with within the remits of
others. <br>
<br>
Sam Lanfranco <br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/10/2016 6:23 AM, Kimpián Péter
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:005801d1aaa6$000ed480$002c7d80$@naih.hu"
type="cite">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered
medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Lucida Grande";
panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
color:black;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
color:black;}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML-ként formázott Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;}
span.hoenzb
{mso-style-name:hoenzb;}
span.HTML-kntformzottChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML-ként formázott Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML-ként formázott";
font-family:Consolas;
color:black;}
span.E-mailStlus21
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
span.E-mailStlus22
{mso-style-type:personal-compose;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Totally agree with Stephanie, I would also
add that every data processing must be fair and lawful and
for every each data processing activity the data
controller must have a valid legal base. Therefore as
already emphasized since Marrakesh the definition of the
purpose of data processing (which also means data
collection) is the most important task of the WG. The WG
should present – I think – a proposal which clearly
defines the purpose of data processing of ICANN and made
on behalf of/or following the instruction of ICANN and to
clearly state whether they are lawful and to which legal
base to choose for the processing (for certain purpose
data controller=registrar, registries will face problems
if using one or another legal base in certain part of the
world or even for data coming from certain part of the
world) . <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">If there are multiple purposes – I think –
the WG should be able to demonstrate the same for every
each of them. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">In all high level multi- and bilateral
international treaties (ex: art 12 of Universal
Declaration of Human Rights) and in 109 (!) countries’
national (current number of countries having data
protection legislation, being Turkey the newest one) law
all over the world the processing of personal data out of
the purpose of for purposes which are illegal or unlawful
or even unfair is strictly forbidden.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> <br>
</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">dr. Péter Kimpián<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">International Affairs and Public
Relations Department<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">National Authority for Data Protection
and Freedom of Information<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Address: H-1125 Budapest,<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Szilágyi Erzsébet fasor 22/C.</span></i><span
style="color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Postal address: H-1530 Budapest, Pf.: 5.</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Tel: +36-1/391-1422<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Fax: +36-1/3911410<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kimpian.peter@naih.hu"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">kimpian.peter@naih.hu</span></a> </span></i><span
style="color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"
lang="EN-GB">Web address: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.naih.hu/"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:purple">www.naih.hu</span></a></span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</blockquote>
[ rest deleted]<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
------------------------------------------------
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
邦有道，贫且贱焉，耻也。邦无道，富且贵焉，耻也
------------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Lanfran@Yorku.ca">Lanfran@Yorku.ca</a> Skype: slanfranco
blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com">http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com</a>
Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>