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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Excellent question,
          and it is a hard one.  In my view step one is to isolate every
          step in the data chain that involves a cost (to the
          registrant, to the registrar, registry, beneficial user of the
          data, access control entity, escrow entity, even ICANN etc.). 
          I include time as money here.  Systems and backup systems I am
          sure everyone has decent numbers for, I am less sure about the
          rest because if ICANN demands certain data practices as a
          condition of accreditation it is hardly worth costing it out. 
          However, adding data elements, tiered access, authentication,
          decent security, escrow, adds cost elements. One of the questions
          that is factored in to that root question, what is the purpose
          of WHOIS?, is related to affordability and access to the DNS
          for every individual and company, as far as I am concerned
          (and I think I speak for most of us in NCSG when I say that). 
          So if you tell me you can estimate this now, I will relax.  It
          is a bit like knowing what your budget is when you reach for
          the grocery cart....and who gave you the money in your purse. 
          If registrars have to deal with every law enforcement/IP
          holder demand for data with a human being, the cost may well
          be prohibitive.  this is a nut that has to be cracked early,
          in my view, I do not want to be lulled into a false sense of
          security that tiered access with solve privacy problems if a
          couple of years from now we are told sorry, the registrant will
          have to be taxed an extra 250% to cover the cost of that. 
          Since the EWG tried in vain to find a party who was keen to
          authenticate law enforcement, I suspect that piece will be
          extremely costly as well. <br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP</font></font><br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-06-16 22:20, Gomes, Chuck
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Stephanie,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You
            have brought up costs multiple times before but I am still
            puzzled how we can estimate costs until we have a better
            understanding of what the requirements will be along with
            the resulting policies.  And solving the problem of who pays
            is pretty hard to do until we have a reasonable estimate of
            the amount of costs. How would you propose we deal with
            costs at this stage?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Perrin<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:09 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS 5 Charter
                questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida
            Grande&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">I will repeat what I have
            said before.  Discussing "requirements" before purpose sets
            up business requirements before we have defined the
            business.  DIscussing accuracy and access before we have
            determined requirements merely throws the cement hardener
            into the mix.  Why on earth discuss accuracy requirements
            for data elements that are on someone's wish list unless the
            costing (and who will pay) is also defined?  Part of
            discussing original purpose of the collection, use and
            disclosure of registration data is to determine, in 2016 and
            for the foreseeable future, why we collect information, what
            is legally permissible to collect, and who will pay for that
            collection (in one form or another).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida
            Grande&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">as I have said before, I
            fully understand that tackling this problem is difficult,
            and I understand the rationale for going with all the
            "requirements" first.  I do think getting further refinement
            will sway all of us in certain directions....towards
            accepting the assumptions that all this data collection is
            necessary and desirable.  It will also tire out those of us
            who have another life, but perhaps that is a desired outcome
            of the majority.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida
            Grande&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Apologies for missing the
            call yesterday, I was travelling and unable to accept the
            callout.  Comments will be coming shortly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida
            Grande&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">SP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-06-16 5:59, Victoria Sheckler
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vayra, Fabricio (Perkins Coie)<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:50 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">&lt;cgomes@verisign.com&gt;</a>;
                  Ayden Férdeline
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">&lt;icann@ferdeline.com&gt;</a>;
                  Susan Kawaguchi <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:susank@fb.com">
                    &lt;susank@fb.com&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS 5 Charter
                  questions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
              agree with Susan.  There’s a reason the charter was
              written as is and to change it unwinds the charter without
              the benefit of the thoughtful work and deliberations that
              went into it.  Moreover, leaving access and accuracy out
              of the discussion until the end has us making decisions in
              a vacuum.  And, finally, I’m not sure how you divorce
              Users/Purposes, Privacy, and Data elements from Access and
              Accuracy, as the latter two are a constant and vital
              reference within all documents I’ve reviewed on the former
              three … so to separate these two topics out until later
              just sets us up for unnecessary grid-lock when we have to
              revisit the first three topics through the interrelated
              latter two topics of Access and Accuracy.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fabricio
                Vayra</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#75787B">PARTNER</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#75787B">700
              Thirteenth Street, N.W. Suite 600</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#75787B">Washington,
              DC 20005-3960</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#75787B">D.
              +1.202.654.6255</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:FVayra@perkinscoie.com"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">FVayra@perkinscoie.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:21 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline; Susan Kawaguchi<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span
                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS 5 Charter
                  questions<br>
                  <b>Importance:</b> High</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks
              for continuing the discussion on the approach to reaching
              consensus.  I strongly encourage others to express your
              opinion on that along with your rationale:  1) Should we
              leave our work plan as is or 2) should we change it from
              two issue reports to three issue reports with the first
              one following deliberation on the user/purpose,
              privacy/data protection and data element questions?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
              appreciate the time you took to explain your position but
              note that much of what you said gets into what we will
              discuss in our future deliberations so I ask everyone to
              not go there yet but instead focus on commenting on the
              approach to reaching consensus.  Our goal is to finalize
              that approach in our meeting next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                  Ayden Férdeline [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"><span
                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</span></a>]
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:54 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Susan Kawaguchi<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span
                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a>;
                  Gomes, Chuck<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS 5 Charter
                  questions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi
                                Susan,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks
                                for sharing these reflections. I
                                understand the desire not to complicate
                                this task. As someone who is new to the
                                ICANN community and its approach to
                                policy-making – and, also, someone who
                                is an advocate of privacy – it would
                                seem to me that all the costs and
                                burdens associated with rallying against
                                an open-access Registration Directory
                                Service have been put on some
                                stakeholders, while proponents of the
                                status quo profit from the lack of
                                consensus or inertia on a different path
                                forward. I say this not to demonise any
                                views, but to clarify that I do indeed
                                share your perspective that we don’t
                                want to be permanently gridlocked here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">This
                                is actually why my preference would be
                                to go down the path that was suggested
                                on our call yesterday – from what I
                                recall, it would mean three
                                opportunities for public comment, and a
                                mandate to focus our energies on
                                understanding Users/Purposes, Privacy,
                                and Data Elements before we consider
                                whether or not gated access is necessary
                                or whether or not records should be
                                accurate. It seems a little premature to
                                me to consider the latter points when we
                                have not yet established if there is a
                                basis for collecting registration data
                                in the first place. I share your point,
                                though, that we should be distinguishing
                                between individuals and commercial
                                entities – which is not to presuppose
                                that there ultimately will be a need for
                                variations in treatment if the RDS is
                                warranted.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We
                                can make our work easier, however. If we
                                decide upon a standard by which to
                                assess whether or not the RDS complies
                                with, say, data privacy laws, we might
                                have a more straightforward exercise
                                ahead. And on that point I would like to
                                note that just because the Internet
                                originated in the US and its governance
                                framework has been historically
                                dominated by US-based actors does not
                                mean we should by default turn to US law
                                for contextual protections or
                                principles. I would like to respectfully
                                suggest that European instruments such
                                as the European Convention on Human
                                Rights, standards set by the European
                                Union Data Protection Directive, and
                                Convention 108 of the Council of Europe
                                might be helpful starting points. These
                                are not obscure laws or conventions
                                which apply to no one: the EU population
                                is over 500 million people, far greater
                                than that of the US.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                                am not a lawyer and I do not come at
                                this topic with the same institutional
                                knowledge that others do have. I do not
                                know all the details or decisions that
                                have led us to this point where, it
                                would seem, the (political) cost to move
                                away from the current default is so very
                                high. I say this to be clear, from the
                                onset, that I might well be misinformed
                                or wrong about how we move forward in
                                this working group. However, it is my
                                view that just because the Internet is
                                by nature cross-border does not mean
                                that it should be treated as a
                                self-governing realm beyond the reach of
                                national laws. WHOIS today, to me, seems
                                to subvert and/or undermine domestic
                                norms and institutions in many
                                territories worldwide. I don’t want to
                                get into the question of sovereignty
                                online, but it would be helpful to at
                                least establish whether or not we
                                believe ICANN should mandate through its
                                contracts with registrars that they
                                comply with local legal regulations, or
                                whether we instead believe that market
                                forces should be driving fundamental
                                decisions about the nature of the
                                Internet.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">You
                                can probably guess my position here, but
                                I’d like to think we can reach some
                                common ground. What are we more
                                concerned about – the rights of the data
                                subject and controller, or the rights of
                                those who wish to monetise it? To come
                                up with, like we have, a list of
                                something like 780 possible requirements
                                for the RDS strikes me as a recipe for
                                disaster. It seems inevitable that we
                                will accidentally impose huge costs on
                                some stakeholder groups – the unintended
                                consequence of trying to achieve some
                                short-term policy goal not to do with
                                any functional imperative of the
                                Internet itself, but to meet someone’s
                                obscure interest. That’s why I want to
                                hammer down on what data is being
                                collected, why it is being used, and
                                what are the implications for privacy
                                before we proceed any further.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Just
                                my $0.02.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-
                                Ayden</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p><span
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">On
                                    Tue, Jun 14, 2016 10:51 PM, Susan
                                    Kawaguchi
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:susank@fb.com"
                                      target="_blank">susank@fb.com</a>
                                    wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hello
                                      All, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                                      have been thinking about the RDS
                                      discussion from this morning’s
                                      meeting and wanted to clarify my
                                      personal position (not as a vice
                                      chair of the WG)  I think we will
                                      complicate our task if we
                                      initially limit the discussion to
                                       three of the charter questions
                                      relating to users/purposes,
                                      privacy and data elements.  Much
                                      thought went into drafting the
                                      charter and brainstorming how a WG
                                      should approach deliberations.    </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Users/Purposes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Privacy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Data
                                      elements</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Access</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Accuracy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">All
                                      of the above are very interrelated
                                      and I can’t imagine that we can
                                      sufficiently discuss one or two
                                      without the others.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">One
                                      other issue that comes to mind is
                                      that we must keep in mind PII data
                                      but we also have to be wary of
                                      creating requirements that convey
                                      data protection rights of
                                      individuals to commercial
                                      entities.  For each of the topics
                                      above we need to address how it
                                      would affect an individual or a
                                      commercial entity.    </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                                      think we should move forward with
                                      the original plan according to the
                                      Charter and discuss all 5 issues
                                      in the first pass.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Susan
                                          Kawaguchi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Domain
                                          Name Manager </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Facebook
                                          Legal Dept. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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