<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Honestly by way of your reply, You probably don’t take the ISIS threat or the The treat of Digital Terrorism seriously or relate to it at all. I would like to request you to take a step back and deliberate on my point not push your view point on the list. </div><div><br></div><div>I will advocate that the NEXT-GEN requirement should include the process where in during the completion of the purchase of a Domain Name the Information related should be absolutely mapped to the Social Security Number of the buyer – supported by a password authentication on the buyer’s cell phone and verification of the govt. Issued ID. It should be the Registry-Registrar relationship responsibility to get this organized and certified by the respective governments AND the data be made public, in-terms of the validations made and rejections done. For authentication purpose, the procedure could be the same as the TMCH undertakes. Validating the respective trademarks. Infact, the process of buyer validation will be much easier than that of the Trademark as most countries, either developed or Developing, have the social Security format is one way or the other, Digitized already and some kind of government facilitation is available for the API’s to be integrated, if need to do so arises. </div><div><br></div><div>As a Aware resident of this humble world, I need to be sure that my Digital World is safe from threats. Rather, if this solution is implemented in part of in full, Many Registries will save huge costs on Network infrastructure as this will be able to deal with Internet Spam and Domain-Squatting making it a clean register for the registries to maintain. </div><div><br></div><div>Customer Privacy is of pivotal Importance, but not more than Digital Terrorism. In the wake of Free Speech and Privacy, we land up risking the lives of our loved ones. </div><div>The Data can be made available for the investigating agencies but that is so many times a long process, so there should be transparency in the system, creating every view of such information private by way of reader authentication. So if I want to read your Information or access it, I need to log in, a Text Authentication, or create an account by uploading my ID etc. etc. Take the example of Linkedin – the Authentication Algorithm is good but there are so many cases of wrongful display information in the user accounts there in too. But on a Dating site like Tinder – It works as the Authentication has checks built in – yet automated. Lets not make Internet an Uber – where everyone runs amok. </div><div><br></div><div>And Lastly, My right to Internet is More than yours perhaps as I represent a MUCH larger set of population that you. So to speak so lets not use the expression, and you quote - "If we start looking at the countries which do not care about the privacy of their citizens, then we will get nowhere. Only be adhering to a maximum standard can we ensure that the result is workable for all providers and their customers”, in isolation. We have to look at the Global Picture and It is our endeavor to do “Best Practice Sharing” and make everyone Grow, together. There is much to learn about the Universe – both On the Earth and outside the earth.</div><div><br></div><div>I look forward to deliberating on this further more. </div><div><br></div><div>Best </div><div>-VA</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:36 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act<br></div><div><br></div><div>
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<p>Frankly, as a provider that is handing over private details of my
customer I do not care about anything less than the maximum
required protection in any jurisdiction that may be applicable. So
what if the states have lower privacy protection requirements than
Europe and India has none? The only acceptable result in my eyes
is an accomodation of the most extensive privacy protection level
that may be required. <br>
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<p>If we start looking at the countries which do not care about the
privacy of their citizens, then we will get nowhere. Only be
adhering to a maximum standard can we ensure that the result is
workable for all providers and their customers.</p>
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<p>Volker</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 08:59 schrieb
Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:D390346D.1F0EB%25va@bladebrains.com" type="cite">
<div>Since India has no privacy laws, so this WG can perhaps
deliberate more to accommodate and protect such countries where
no legislation exists as such. This will allow the group to
offer a wholistic, and long term policy perspective, justifying
NEXT-GEN. </div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-Vaibhav Aggarwal</div>
<div>New Delhi</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://thevaibhav.com">TheVaibhav.com</a></div>
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on behalf of Holly Raiche <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net">h.raiche@internode.on.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, June
22, 2016 at 11:59 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Carlton Samuels
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> RDS WG <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act<br>
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<div>The Australian legislation (Privacy Act 1988) has a
much broader definition:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre;"> </span>personal
information means information or an opinion about an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>identified
individual, or an individual who is reasonably<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>identifiable:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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true or not; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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none;text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>(b) whether
the information or opinion is recorded in a material<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span>And
the Privacy Commissioner ruled that the definition
included meta data (that decision is being challenged,
but then look at the EU as to meta data)</p>
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<div>Holly</div>
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<div>On 22 Jun 2016, at 4:08 pm, Carlton Samuels <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans
ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">The <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2702&ChapAct=815%A0ILCS%A0530/&ChapterID=67&ChapterName=BUSINESS%20TRANSACTIONS&ActName=Personal%20Information%20Protection%20Act.">Illinois
Personal Information Protection Act</a> might be
of mild interest, particularly the
definitions....and what is excluded:</div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal
information" means an individual's
first name or first initial and last
name in combination with any one or
more of the following data elements,
when either the name or the data
elements are not encrypted or
redacted: </font></code><br>
<code> </code><code> </code><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(1) Social
Security number. </font></code><br>
<code> </code><code> </code><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(2)
Driver's license number or State
identification</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">card
number.</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code> </code><code> </code><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(3)
Account number or credit or debit card
number, or</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">an
account number or credit card
number in combination with any
required security code, access
code, or password that would
permit access to an
individual's financial
account.</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal
information" does not include publicly
available information that is lawfully
made available to the general public
from federal, State, or local
government records. </font></code><code></code><br>
<code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(Source:
P.A. 97-483, eff. 1-1-12.)</font></code></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans
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