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So new Times need New Measures, but the extent & methodology of change can be something which is up for discussion. </span></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px;">ISIS or the US 9/11/2001 (Memorial Opening Next Week) or the Indian 26/11/2008 or the Afghan Some 12-13-14-15-16, and Global Warming were never there the last time WHO is Privacy rules were made. </span></font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Look forward to interacting with you & everyone on the subject constructively.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Best regards & have a wonderful evening, <br> <br>Vaibhav</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: navy;"><br></span><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tweet with me : <a href="http://twitter.com/bladebrains" style="color: purple;">@bladebrains</a><br></span></i><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;">facebook page : <a href="http://facebook.com/bladebrains" style="color: purple;">bladebrains</a></span></i><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br></span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: navy;">Vaibhav</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: navy;">Aggarwal</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: navy;"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;">| </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;">President & Group CEO</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Copperplate Gothic Bold', sans-serif; color: rgb(112, 48, 160);">Blade-BRAINS</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">™</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> Group | e : </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com" style="color: purple;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">va@bladebrains.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> | m : +91.989924.6969 | <br> Fax : +91.(0).80.66885806<br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 12pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="http://www.bladebrains.com/" style="color: purple;">www.bladebrains.com</a></span></b><b><i><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(112, 48, 160);"> |</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(112, 48, 160);"> the DO MORE team !</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: green;">Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. 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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am sorry if my previous mail came over a bit harsh. <br>
</p>
<p>I appreciate that your background may be different from mine and
the situation in India may be different from the one in Europe. I
take issue with your suggestion that my horizon is limited by my
origin though as I have travelled and lived abroad quite a lot as
well. I also take issue with the continuous attempts to attempt to
regulate content and abusive use of the internet through domain
names. </p>
<p>That aside and back to the topic though, I absolutely refuse to
compromise on issues of legal obligations and rights of both
service providers and those that they serve. As ICANN policy may
not violate national or international law, the requirements of the
country with the most protective privacy laws must form the basis
for our deliberations. Anything less than that maximum would put
service providers in a position where they may have to violate
applicable law. If you in India feel that German privacy laws go
to far, that is just too bad, but that is what is the law for us
and therefore the measure that I will apply to any suggestion made
in this group. If that does not serve your national security
needs, I am sorry but whois policy was never intended to serve
national or regional security needs. Just like the presumption of
innocense means that some criminals will get away with it, the
protection of individual privacy rights will mean certain data
will not be accessible, no matter how desperately some security
agencies want it. <br>
</p>
<p>If we compare it to another recent issue, I believe Apple was
absolutely right to refuse the demands made by the FBI.<br>
</p>
<p>I am confident that we as a working group will be able to achieve
a consensus position, however this will only be possible if this
discussion is devoid of attempts to regulate the internet.
Replacing whois with a new system is a daunting task already, let
us not make it impossible. Unlike a democracy, the majority does
not decide the outcome of a PDP, we need consensus. That aside, I
am confident that the majority of the group opposes the
suggestions you have made.<br>
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<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 16:45 schrieb
Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>
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<div>Volker, </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>No you don’t take these threats seriously, as the tone and
manner is appearing to be callous. Do I need to mention the
crisis EU is going through right now ?</div>
<div>I am avoiding writing to you in a particular manner but this
is the second mail you have written in a superior manner and a
showing down manner. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So here is my take – Even if you want to to show that you
represent a particular set of people – No you don’t. Your
statement is skewed and can be shot at, any point in time as you
represent Key Systems and there is a Conflict of interest for
you to even be on this group. </div>
<div>You can definitely give your inputs, but you do not have the
right to make policy. You have business vested Interests. What
you are writing in this WG mailing list, shud it be taken KEY
SYSTEM’s Official Stand on the matter – in the same tone and
reference? Please elaborate. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Re Representations, your response is Patronizing, Aggressive
and Harsh when compared to how I have worded my mail. NOT
Discounting that I can pin you down anytime. </div>
<div>Please consider I live in a region where I am living amongst
4 Billion People, not in your region. And I am well travelled
globally, to consider the public policy environment in the west
or the east or north or South. If you ever come to India in the
ICANN 57, you will feel the heat yourself. This part of the
world is a bit more complicated than where you are living –
especially for security. So don’t be Patronising. </div>
<div>BY way of your thoughts, it appears that you don’t get too
much vacation. You have neither travelled to Africa, Nor Asia
nor studied those regions. I will be happy to host you.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, let’s be humble when we write in the list. Its been
read around the world, by professionals who don’t have the time
to read BS. At least I don’t.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Back to the Topic, in two lines : Regarding the Point I made
earlier, It is advisable to be Democratic in your approach, I
have kept the point for a discussion, It is a requirement from
my side if it get heard great – if not then this is not the last
forum I would like to present this view point to. I have
considerable influence elsewhere too. And I am a Contributor and
Member of the WG as you are. I have the right to be heard,
present my view point and Keep my Voice as you have and As the
rest of us have. Who the hell is anyone to Rubbish what any of
us say. Take it easy. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So Chill and Relax !!</div>
<div>Next time be professional and don’t be patronizing – its
democracy not war.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-VA</div>
<div><br>
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BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, June
22, 2016 at 7:31 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Vaibhav Aggarwal
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com">va@bladebrains.com</a>>,
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
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seriously, but I take human rights and personal privacy
rights just as seriously. If we give up our freedoms to stop
a few madmen, we will have paid too high a price. If we go
for the lowest common denominator, we will have paid too
high a price. <br>
<br>
I also firmly oppose the inclusion of additional data that
is not required for contactability of the domain owner, such
as the social security number of the registrant. This is
highly private information and we as service providers have
no business asking for it just because someone wants a
domain name. I never had to provide my SS number to Amazon,
to Facebook, to my local phone company or the post office
either and they provide their services to me. Similarly,
asking for additional verification such as cell phone
verification or govt issued IDs are non-starters.<br>
<br>
I would also dispute the notion that the registration of a
domain name should in any way be compared to registering a
tradmark in the TMCH. The two have nothing in common.<br>
<br>
Frankly, asking for additional privacy-relevant data to be
included seems like an attempt to set this group up for
failure since there is no way that it will gain consensus if
that is included in the final recommendations. <br>
<br>
If this is your mission, prepared to be disappointed, no
matter how many people you claim to represent. <br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 15:28 schrieb
Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:D3908A02.1F175%25va@bladebrains.com" type="cite">
<div>Honestly by way of your reply, You probably don’t
take the ISIS threat or the The treat of Digital
Terrorism seriously or relate to it at all. I would like
to request you to take a step back and deliberate on my
point not push your view point on the list. </div>
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<div>I will advocate that the NEXT-GEN requirement should
include the process where in during the completion of
the purchase of a Domain Name the Information related
should be absolutely mapped to the Social Security
Number of the buyer – supported by a password
authentication on the buyer’s cell phone and
verification of the govt. Issued ID. It should be the
Registry-Registrar relationship responsibility to get
this organized and certified by the respective
governments AND the data be made public, in-terms of the
validations made and rejections done. For authentication
purpose, the procedure could be the same as the TMCH
undertakes. Validating the respective trademarks.
Infact, the process of buyer validation will be much
easier than that of the Trademark as most countries,
either developed or Developing, have the social Security
format is one way or the other, Digitized already and
some kind of government facilitation is available for
the API’s to be integrated, if need to do so arises. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>As a Aware resident of this humble world, I need to
be sure that my Digital World is safe from threats.
Rather, if this solution is implemented in part of in
full, Many Registries will save huge costs on Network
infrastructure as this will be able to deal with
Internet Spam and Domain-Squatting making it a clean
register for the registries to maintain. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Customer Privacy is of pivotal Importance, but not
more than Digital Terrorism. In the wake of Free Speech
and Privacy, we land up risking the lives of our loved
ones. </div>
<div>The Data can be made available for the investigating
agencies but that is so many times a long process, so
there should be transparency in the system, creating
every view of such information private by way of reader
authentication. So if I want to read your Information or
access it, I need to log in, a Text Authentication, or
create an account by uploading my ID etc. etc. Take the
example of Linkedin – the Authentication Algorithm is
good but there are so many cases of wrongful display
information in the user accounts there in too. But on a
Dating site like Tinder – It works as the Authentication
has checks built in – yet automated. Lets not make
Internet an Uber – where everyone runs amok. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And Lastly, My right to Internet is More than yours
perhaps as I represent a MUCH larger set of population
that you. So to speak so lets not use the expression,
and you quote - "If we start looking at the countries
which do not care about the privacy of their citizens,
then we will get nowhere. Only be adhering to a maximum
standard can we ensure that the result is workable for
all providers and their customers”, in isolation. We
have to look at the Global Picture and It is our
endeavor to do “Best Practice Sharing” and make everyone
Grow, together. There is much to learn about the
Universe – both On the Earth and outside the earth.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I look forward to deliberating on this further more. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best </div>
<div>-VA</div>
<div><br>
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on behalf of Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>
Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:36 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> <<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
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<p>Frankly, as a provider that is handing over
private details of my customer I do not care about
anything less than the maximum required protection
in any jurisdiction that may be applicable. So
what if the states have lower privacy protection
requirements than Europe and India has none? The
only acceptable result in my eyes is an
accomodation of the most extensive privacy
protection level that may be required. <br>
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<p>If we start looking at the countries which do not
care about the privacy of their citizens, then we
will get nowhere. Only be adhering to a maximum
standard can we ensure that the result is workable
for all providers and their customers.</p>
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<p>Volker</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 08:59
schrieb Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:D390346D.1F0EB%25va@bladebrains.com" type="cite">
<div>Since India has no privacy laws, so this WG
can perhaps deliberate more to accommodate and
protect such countries where no legislation
exists as such. This will allow the group to
offer a wholistic, and long term policy
perspective, justifying NEXT-GEN. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-Vaibhav Aggarwal</div>
<div>New Delhi</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://thevaibhav.com">TheVaibhav.com</a></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>
Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 11:59 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>
Carlton Samuels <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting
into the Act<br>
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<div>The Australian legislation (Privacy Act
1988) has a much broader definition:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre;"> </span>personal
information means information or an
opinion about an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>identified
individual, or an individual who is
reasonably<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>identifiable:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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or opinion is true or not; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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none;text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>(b) whether
the information or opinion is recorded
in a material<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span>And
the Privacy Commissioner ruled that the
definition included meta data (that
decision is being challenged, but then
look at the EU as to meta data)</p>
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<div>Holly</div>
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<div>On 22 Jun 2016, at 4:08 pm, Carlton
Samuels <<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic
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ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">The
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2702&ChapAct=815%A0ILCS%A0530/&ChapterID=67&ChapterName=BUSINESS%20TRANSACTIONS&ActName=Personal%20Information%20Protection%20Act.">Illinois
Personal Information Protection
Act</a> might be of mild
interest, particularly the
definitions....and what is
excluded:</div>
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ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal
information" means an
individual's first
name or first initial
and last name in
combination with any
one or more of the
following data
elements, when either
the name or the data
elements are not
encrypted or
redacted: </font></code><br>
<code> </code><code> </code><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(1) Social
Security number. </font></code><br>
<code> </code><code> </code><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(2) Driver's
license number or
State identification</font></code></div>
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<td width="1"><code><font face="Courier
New" size="2"> </font></code></td>
<td>
<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier
New" size="2">card
number.</font></code></div>
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</tr>
</tbody>
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</td>
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<tr>
<td>
<div align="justify"><code> </code><code> </code><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(3) Account
number or credit or
debit card number, or</font></code></div>
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<td width="1"><code><font face="Courier
New" size="2"> </font></code></td>
<td>
<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier
New" size="2">an
account number
or credit card
number in
combination
with any
required
security code,
access code,
or password
that would
permit access
to an
individual's
financial
account.</font></code></div>
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</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>
<div align="justify"><code><font face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal
information" does not
include publicly
available information
that is lawfully made
available to the
general public from
federal, State, or
local government
records. </font></code><code></code><br>
<code><font face="Courier
New" size="2">(Source:
P.A. 97-483, eff.
1-1-12.)</font></code></div>
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