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    I take those threats seriously, but I take human rights and personal

    privacy rights just as seriously. If we give up our freedoms to stop

    a few madmen, we will have paid too high a price. If we go for the

    lowest common denominator, we will have paid too high a price. <br>

    <br>

    I also firmly oppose the inclusion of additional data that is not

    required for contactability of the domain owner, such as the social

    security number of the registrant. This is highly private

    information and we as service providers have no business asking for

    it just because someone wants a domain name. I never had to provide

    my SS number to Amazon, to Facebook, to my local phone company or

    the post office either and they provide their services to me.

    Similarly, asking for additional verification such as cell phone

    verification or govt issued IDs are non-starters.<br>

    <br>

    I would also dispute the notion that the registration of a domain

    name should in any way be compared to registering a tradmark in the

    TMCH. The two have nothing in common.<br>

    <br>

    Frankly, asking for additional privacy-relevant data to be included

    seems like an attempt to set this group up for failure since there

    is no way that it will gain consensus if that is included in the

    final recommendations. <br>

    <br>

    If this is your mission, prepared to be disappointed, no matter how

    many people you claim to represent. <br>

    <br>

    Best regards,<br>

    <br>

    Volker<br>

    <br>

    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 15:28 schrieb

      Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>

    </div>

    <blockquote cite="mid:D3908A02.1F175%25va@bladebrains.com"

      type="cite">

      <div>Honestly by way of your reply, You probably don’t take the

        ISIS threat or the The treat of Digital Terrorism seriously or

        relate to it at all. I would like to request you to take a step

        back and deliberate on my point not push your view point on the

        list. </div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

      <div>I will advocate that the NEXT-GEN requirement should include

        the process where in during the completion of the purchase of a

        Domain Name the Information related should be absolutely mapped

        to the Social Security Number of the buyer – supported by a

        password authentication on the buyer’s cell phone and

        verification of the govt. Issued ID. It should be the

        Registry-Registrar relationship responsibility to get this

        organized and certified by the respective governments AND the

        data be made public, in-terms of the validations made and

        rejections done. For authentication purpose, the procedure could

        be the same as the TMCH undertakes. Validating the respective

        trademarks. Infact, the process of buyer validation will be much

        easier than that of the Trademark as most countries, either

        developed or Developing, have the social Security format is one

        way or the other, Digitized already and some kind of government

        facilitation is available for the API’s to be integrated, if

        need to do so arises. </div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

      <div>As a Aware resident of this humble world, I need to be sure

        that my Digital World is safe from threats. Rather, if this

        solution is implemented in part of in full, Many Registries will

        save huge costs on Network infrastructure as this will be able

        to deal with Internet Spam and Domain-Squatting making it a

        clean register for the registries to maintain. </div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

      <div>Customer Privacy is of pivotal Importance, but not more than

        Digital Terrorism. In the wake of Free Speech and Privacy, we

        land up risking the lives of our loved ones. </div>

      <div>The Data can be made available for the investigating agencies

        but that is so many times a long process, so there should be

        transparency in the system, creating every view of such

        information private by way of reader authentication. So if I

        want to read your Information or access it, I need to log in, a

        Text Authentication, or create an account by uploading my ID

        etc. etc. Take the example of Linkedin – the Authentication

        Algorithm is good but there are so many cases of wrongful

        display information in the user accounts there in too. But on a

        Dating site like Tinder – It works as the Authentication has

        checks built in – yet automated. Lets not make Internet an Uber

        – where everyone runs amok. </div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

      <div>And Lastly, My right to Internet is More than yours perhaps

        as I represent a MUCH larger set of population that you. So to

        speak so lets not use the expression, and you quote - "If we

        start looking at the countries which do not care about the

        privacy of their citizens, then we will get nowhere. Only be

        adhering to a maximum standard can we ensure that the result is

        workable for all providers and their customers”, in isolation.

        We have to look at the Global Picture and It is our endeavor to

        do “Best Practice Sharing” and make everyone Grow, together.

        There is much to learn about the Universe – both On the Earth

        and outside the earth.</div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

      <div>I look forward to deliberating on this further more. </div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

      <div>Best </div>

      <div>-VA</div>

      <div><br>

      </div>

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          BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span

            style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> &lt;<a

            moz-do-not-send="true"

            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a></a>&gt;

          on behalf of Volker Greimann &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"

            href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;<br>

          <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, June

          22, 2016 at 4:36 PM<br>

          <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> &lt;<a

            moz-do-not-send="true"

            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a>&gt;<br>

          <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:

          [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act<br>

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        <div><br>

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            <p>Frankly, as a provider that is handing over private

              details of my customer I do not care about anything less

              than the maximum required protection in any jurisdiction

              that may be applicable. So what if the states have lower

              privacy protection requirements than Europe and India has

              none? The only acceptable result in my eyes is an

              accomodation of the most extensive privacy protection

              level that may be required. <br>

            </p>

            <p>If we start looking at the countries which do not care

              about the privacy of their citizens, then we will get

              nowhere. Only be adhering to a maximum standard can we

              ensure that the result is workable for all providers and

              their customers.</p>

            <p><br>

            </p>

            <p>Volker</p>

            <p><br>

            </p>

            <br>

            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 08:59 schrieb

              Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>

            </div>

            <blockquote cite="mid:D390346D.1F0EB%25va@bladebrains.com"

              type="cite">

              <div>Since India has no privacy laws, so this WG can

                perhaps deliberate more to accommodate and protect such

                countries where no legislation exists as such. This will

                allow the group to offer a wholistic, and long term

                policy perspective, justifying NEXT-GEN. </div>

              <div><br>

              </div>

              <div>Regards,</div>

              <div>-Vaibhav Aggarwal</div>

              <div>New Delhi</div>

              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"

                  href="http://thevaibhav.com">TheVaibhav.com</a></div>

              <div><br>

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                  PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP:

                  #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;

                  PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From:

                  </span> &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"

                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"

                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;

                  on behalf of Holly Raiche &lt;<a

                    moz-do-not-send="true"

                    href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net">h.raiche@internode.on.net</a></a>&gt;<br>

                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>

                  Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 11:59 AM<br>

                  <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Carlton

                  Samuels &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"

                    href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>

                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> RDS WG

                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"

                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"

                    href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>

                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:

                  [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act<br>

                </div>

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                    is scary.

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                    <div>The Australian legislation (Privacy Act 1988)

                      has a much broader definition:</div>

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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre;">        </span>personal

                          information means information or an opinion

                          about an<o:p></o:p></span></p>

                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>identified

                          individual, or an individual who is reasonably<o:p></o:p></span></p>

                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>identifiable:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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                          lang="EN-US">whether the information or

                          opinion is true or not; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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                        none;text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                </span>(b) whether

                          the information or opinion is recorded in a

                          material<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:

                          11pt;"> </span>And the Privacy

                        Commissioner ruled that the definition included

                        meta data (that decision is being challenged,

                        but then look at the EU as to meta data)</p>

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                      <div>Holly</div>

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                        <div>On 22 Jun 2016, at 4:08 pm, Carlton Samuels

                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"

                            class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"

                            href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                          wrote:</div>

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                              ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:small">The <a

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                                Personal Information Protection Act</a>

                              might be of mild interest, particularly

                              the definitions....and what is excluded:</div>

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                                    <div align="justify"><code><font

                                          face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal

                                          information" means an

                                          individual's first name or

                                          first initial and last name in

                                          combination with any one or

                                          more of the following data

                                          elements, when either the name

                                          or the data elements are not

                                          encrypted or redacted: </font></code><br>

                                      <code>    </code><code>    </code><code><font

                                          face="Courier New" size="2">(1)

                                          Social Security number. </font></code><br>

                                      <code>    </code><code>    </code><code><font

                                          face="Courier New" size="2">(2)

                                          Driver's license number or

                                          State identification</font></code></div>

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                                          <td>

                                            <div align="justify"><code><font

                                                  face="Courier New"

                                                  size="2">card number.</font></code></div>

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                                    <div align="justify"><code>    </code><code>    </code><code><font

                                          face="Courier New" size="2">(3)

                                          Account number or credit or

                                          debit card number, or</font></code></div>

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                                        <tr>

                                          <td width="1"><code><font

                                                face="Courier New"

                                                size="2">    </font></code></td>

                                          <td>

                                            <div align="justify"><code><font

                                                  face="Courier New"

                                                  size="2">an account

                                                  number or credit card

                                                  number in combination

                                                  with any required

                                                  security code, access

                                                  code, or password that

                                                  would permit access to

                                                  an individual's

                                                  financial account.</font></code></div>

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                                    <div align="justify"><code><font

                                          face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal

                                          information" does not include

                                          publicly available information

                                          that is lawfully made

                                          available to the general

                                          public from federal, State, or

                                          local government records. </font></code><code></code><br>

                                      <code><font face="Courier New"

                                          size="2">(Source: P.A. 97-483,

                                          eff. 1-1-12.)</font></code></div>

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