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<p>Frankly, as a provider that is handing over private details of my
customer I do not care about anything less than the maximum
required protection in any jurisdiction that may be applicable. So
what if the states have lower privacy protection requirements than
Europe and India has none? The only acceptable result in my eyes
is an accomodation of the most extensive privacy protection level
that may be required. <br>
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<p>If we start looking at the countries which do not care about the
privacy of their citizens, then we will get nowhere. Only be
adhering to a maximum standard can we ensure that the result is
workable for all providers and their customers.</p>
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<p>Volker</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.06.2016 um 08:59 schrieb
Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:<br>
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<div>Since India has no privacy laws, so this WG can perhaps
deliberate more to accommodate and protect such countries where
no legislation exists as such. This will allow the group to
offer a wholistic, and long term policy perspective, justifying
NEXT-GEN. </div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-Vaibhav Aggarwal</div>
<div>New Delhi</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, June
22, 2016 at 11:59 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Carlton Samuels
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act<br>
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
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<div>The Australian legislation (Privacy Act 1988) has a
much broader definition:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre;">        </span>personal
information means information or an opinion about an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>identified
individual, or an individual who is reasonably<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>identifiable:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">whether the information or opinion is
true or not; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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none;text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                </span>(b) whether
the information or opinion is recorded in a material<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span>And
the Privacy Commissioner ruled that the definition
included meta data (that decision is being challenged,
but then look at the EU as to meta data)</p>
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<div>Holly</div>
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<div>On 22 Jun 2016, at 4:08 pm, Carlton Samuels <<a
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Personal Information Protection Act</a> might be
of mild interest, particularly the
definitions....and what is excluded:</div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal
information" means an individual's
first name or first initial and last
name in combination with any one or
more of the following data elements,
when either the name or the data
elements are not encrypted or
redacted: </font></code><br>
<code> </code><code> </code><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">(1) Social
Security number. </font></code><br>
<code> </code><code> </code><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">(2)
Driver's license number or State
identification</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">card
number.</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code> </code><code> </code><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">(3)
Account number or credit or debit card
number, or</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">an
account number or credit card
number in combination with any
required security code, access
code, or password that would
permit access to an
individual's financial
account.</font></code></div>
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<div align="justify"><code><font
face="Courier New" size="2">"Personal
information" does not include publicly
available information that is lawfully
made available to the general public
from federal, State, or local
government records. </font></code><code></code><br>
<code><font face="Courier New" size="2">(Source:
P.A. 97-483, eff. 1-1-12.)</font></code></div>
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