<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Ok I disagree constructively. With the thread for mutual admiration, whose right and whose saying wrong is getting too much. Let's keep the thread limited to substantial discussion on the topic happening. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Mails ping constantly and what u read is philosophical. Let's do it but in a separate what's app group or something like that. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Apologies in advance for hurting anyone's sentiments but let's get on with it. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Best regards & respects to all, <br>-VA</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Carlton Samuels <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I agree, due deference to context and intent.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">-Carlton</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>==============================<br>Carlton A Samuels<br>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i><br>=============================</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Greg is correct. We must be able to disagree constructively if we expect to do our job. And we also need to try to stay on task or we will find ourselves being very ineffective. </div>
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On Jul 5, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think Chuck was objecting to divergence or disagreements in opinions or matters of substance in any way. Rather, Chuck was remarking on an elevated level of rhetoric and potentially
offensive expression apparent on the list. This tends to cloud rather than clarify areas of substantive disagreement, and to slow down rather than speed up the process of moving toward consensus.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">My father used to refer to this as "generating more heat than light." In my view, we should strive to disagree without being disagreeable, and seek to understand other views rather than to dismiss
than out of hand (e.g., because an email response doesn't come back fast enough to suit). That doesn't mean we have to treat each other with kid gloves; rather, there is a balance to be struck. It's Chuck's role to notice when we are out of balance, and
to restore that balance. I fully support Chuck's intervention, both in substance and in timing.</div>
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However, divergence is sometimes needed to make a better agreement and implement a sustainable solution.</blockquote>
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I took a vacation. Seeing I have always invested my usual 3 weeks of vacation time to ICANN endeavours, this is the first time in almost 10 years!</div>
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The narrative we're supposed to credit says there are no agendas in an ICANN/GNSO PDP WG. I generously grant that opinion status. </div>
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The airing of disagreements, even to the point of what diplomats term 'a full and frank expression of views', sooner rather than later, is the best approach for negotiating consensus. Might sound counterintuitive at first blush but......</div>
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