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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <<a href="mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com" target="_blank">6.Internet@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 22 July 2016 at 15:19<br>
<b>To: </b>Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><span class=""><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:26PM +0530, Sivasubramanian M wrote:<br>
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> That would be a problem for me as a Registrant from another country, if my<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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So don't do business with an Irish company? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">As a Registrant, I don't make the choice to do business with the Irish Company, but the Registrar who registered my domain name or the Registry that operates that domain name at the Top
Level makes that decision.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">That is so wrong in all aspects<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">You as registrant choose registrar and compliant to accept conditions wherein there are referred to jurisdiction of the registrar</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333"> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">Policies to make every company providing anything anywhere do exactly the same thing? Why not? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">The obvious answer, ICANN does not make the rules in every country…
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">Please spare us from wasting time on such nonsense as this…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333"><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Are you saying that this discussion on use of Registrant data is "wasting time" and "such nonesense" as an individual participant, or saying this as Nordreg.se or as a stakeholder group member ? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">And, ICANN can not make rules in every country, but ICANN can make rules about DNS, it can encourage good practices concerning DNS data.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">On your earlier comment that "this is so wrong", the point is not about a Registrant choosing a Registrar, but that the choice of the Registrar does not alone guarantee the data rights of the Registrant.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Sivasubramanian M</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333"> <u></u></span></p>
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