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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NO-BOK" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">To make it short, I expect that people in this group have a general and basic info about the difference of registrant, registrar and registry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NO-BOK" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">So when claiming that a registrar choose where he register the domain for the registrant are in my opionion as a registrar wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NO-BOK" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The registrant has the choice of which registrar he uses and have an own responsibility to check where the registrar are legally bound of jurisdiction if that matters for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NO-BOK" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Starting to put in what I will call wrong perspectives in the process will make it a waste of time and are nonsense.
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I am here as an individual with an interest in the matter which I expect everyone here have?
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But I am not hidding behind a gmail adress and no signature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Benny Samuelsen<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">IANA-ID: 638<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><isolatedn@gmail.com> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday 25 July 2016 at 16:12<br>
<b>To: </b>Benny Samuelsen <benny@nordreg.se><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:39 PM, <a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <<a href="mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com" target="_blank">6.Internet@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 22 July 2016 at 15:19<br>
<b>To: </b>Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:26PM +0530, Sivasubramanian M wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">That is so wrong in all aspects</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">You as registrant choose registrar and compliant to accept conditions wherein there are referred to jurisdiction of the registrar</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">Policies to make every company providing anything anywhere do exactly the same thing? Why not? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">The obvious answer, ICANN does not make the rules in every country…
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">Please spare us from wasting time on such nonsense as this…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">And, ICANN can not make rules in every country, but ICANN can make rules about DNS, it can encourage good practices concerning DNS data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#333333">On your earlier comment that "this is so wrong", the point is not about a Registrant choosing a Registrar, but that the choice of the Registrar does not alone guarantee the data rights of
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