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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kathy, as discussed during the last meeting, the objective of the use cases is to
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">look at particular real world scenarios involving RDS and identify and better understand WHOIS uses following which it may be determined whether these concern permissible or non-permissible and/or primary
/ secondary uses. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika Konings</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Cambria"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Cambria"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Email:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday 25 July 2016 at 15:10<br>
<b>To: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>@Marika, with absolute respect, I need to share that no company develops a directory of secondary uses of personal and sensitive data based on all the ways people want to use it. The discussion is always, first and foremost, about how you have to Limit the
Availability of personal and sensitive data for secondary uses consistent with national law (of the company) and the national laws of the citizens (whose data is being collected).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>No one does it this way, guys.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/25/2016 5:08 AM, Marika Konings wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayen, I think you may be misinterpreting what Lisa stated. Note that she said ‘we are starting with use cases to develop a shared understanding of today's real-world scenarios. It's very
useful to flag problems that may need to be solved, possible improvements, etc, within use cases.’ which could include something like user wants X to be able to do Y, but for reasons A and B this is not possible under the existing WHOIS protocol. Rod’s email
sheds some further light on how use cases where approached in the context of the EWG that might be helpful.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika Konings</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Email:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline
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</span><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Date: </span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Monday 25 July 2016 at 10:58<br>
<b>To: </b>Lisa Phifer <a href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com"><lisa@corecom.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">I share Lisa's interpretation of this task. At this stage of our work plan, we should only be looking at how the existing WHOIS protocol is being used or misused.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 8:27 PM, Lisa Phifer
<a href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com" target="_blank">lisa@corecom.com</a> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Hi Andrew,<br>
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My answer was not intended to limit how use cases are used by the WG throughout this PDP. It was just to clarify the focus of the current action item seeking example use cases for discussion over the next couple of WG calls.<br>
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While we are still prepping for deliberations, my understanding was that we are starting with use cases to develop a shared understanding of today's real-world scenarios.<br>
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It's very useful to flag problems that may need to be solved, possible improvements, etc, within use cases. However,
<i>deliberating on</i> any new possible requirements suggested within an example use case should occur once we enter deliberation.<br>
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Best, Lisa<br>
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At 01:09 PM 7/24/2016, Andrew Sullivan wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Why? If that's the rule, then there's no point: we're doomed forever to the stupidity of Whois.
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On Jul 24, 2016, at 14:55, Lisa Phifer <<a href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com">lisa@corecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Good question - use cases should describe today's real-world scenarios.<br>
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At 11:57 AM 7/24/2016, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri">Just as a question, when we do use cases are we supposed to put in hypotheticals or talk about them as they are now? Eg tiered access does not exist at the moment, do we imagine our
use cases as we would like to see them? Sorry not to have been paying close enough attention to this.</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri">Stephanie Perrin</span><span style="font-family:Calibri"><br>
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On 2016-07-24 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Karnika<br>
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</span><b><span style="font-family:Calibri">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri"><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of karnika
<a href="mailto:karnika@sethassociates.com"><karnika@sethassociates.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 23 July 2016 at 01:51<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">“gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org”</a>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Dear All,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri">I have prepared an Example Use case which is attached herewith. Please feel free to comment and give your inputs so that we can discuss it in our future meetings.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri">With Regards,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Karnika Seth
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