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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This certainly gives clarity to what we are aiming at and the direction for today’s discussion. Thankyou for your comments, Chuck, Steven, Stephanie and all other members of WG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Karnika Seth<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'> Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 26 July 2016 00:50<br><b>To:</b> Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; 'karnika' <karnika@sethassociates.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Note that our goal is not to create a complete set of all possible use cases but rather to get a sampling of some that cover the key questions we will be addressing in out deliberation. Also note the excellent discussion that Karnika’s use case generated. That is exactly what we want to happen. It is less about having a flawless use case than it is about getting us all thinking about the various issues we will need to consider when deliberating. So our objective is not to fix Karnika’s use case but instead to discuss it from multiple perspectives.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Metalitz, Steven<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 25, 2016 2:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'karnika'; <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you Karnika for putting forward a draft that we can work from. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Regarding Michele’s point, the overarching question may be how granular do we want the use case examples to be? I would think that, at a minimum, we would wish to distinguish between the case where the requesting party (“A,” though there is a reference to “X” in the first line) is a law enforcement officer acting in that capacity, and where A is a private party (whether an individual or a “legal person” such as a company). These are probably two different use cases. Michele’s question is whether we should further subdivide this based on the type of illegal or “legally actionable” conduct involved. I certainly agree that (to use his example) defamation might be handled differently from identity theft; but if the RDS user in both cases is a private party, do they need to be separate use case examples? Same question if in both cases “A” is law enforcement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>One additional point on granularity: there might be two separate use cases even in the private party requester (A=private party) situation, depending on whether A is seeking to contact the registrant, or is simply seeking to identify an address where the registrant can be served with legal process. I believe the former case is far more common than the latter, but both could occur, and they ought to be treated separately because the latter would seemingly require data with different characteristics than the former. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Stephanie’s question goes (among other things) to Karnika’s last paragraph. Where the registrant is using a proxy registration service, should we assume that the proposed consensus policy regarding accreditation now pending before the ICANN board will be in place? Or should we assume the status quo? This could change the nature of the use case. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Steve Metalitz <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:#88162E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>karnika<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 25, 2016 2:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thankyou Stephanie and Michele for your valuable inputs. I think we should discuss this in next meeting so that other use cases can also be developed accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Karnika Seth <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Perrin<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 July 2016 23:27<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif'>Just as a question, when we do use cases are we supposed to put in hypotheticals or talk about them as they are now? Eg tiered access does not exist at the moment, do we imagine our use cases as we would like to see them? Sorry not to have been paying close enough attention to this.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif'>Stephanie Perrin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2016-07-24 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE>Karnika</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE>Thanks for the example.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE>In order to make it easier to process use cases I’d recommend you break them out as specifically as possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE>So defamation would be quite different to identity theft.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE>Michele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Blacknight Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.blacknight.host/">http://www.blacknight.host/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://blog.blacknight.com/">http://blog.blacknight.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://ceo.hosting/">http://ceo.hosting/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>-------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of karnika <a href="mailto:karnika@sethassociates.com"><karnika@sethassociates.com></a><br><b>Date: </b>Saturday 23 July 2016 at 01:51<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br><b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have prepared an Example Use case which is attached herewith. 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