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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:windowtext">I think we should assume that recommendations of the proxy/privacy PDP will be ratified by the Board. (It will be unprecedented and controversial if they are not). Although once
a Consensus Policy gets ratified by the Board, it sometimes takes years for the exact implementation to be worked out and the Policy to actually go into effect. Still, the proxy/privacy PDP recommends some specific things and those are known, even if the
exact executional details are not.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:windowtext">--Greg<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Metalitz, Steven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 25, 2016 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'karnika' <karnika@sethassociates.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you Karnika for putting forward a draft that we can work from.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regarding Michele’s point, the overarching question may be how granular do we want the use case examples to be? I would think that, at a minimum, we would wish to distinguish between the case where the requesting
party (“A,” though there is a reference to “X” in the first line) is a law enforcement officer acting in that capacity, and where A is a private party (whether an individual or a “legal person” such as a company). These are probably two different use cases.
Michele’s question is whether we should further subdivide this based on the type of illegal or “legally actionable” conduct involved. I certainly agree that (to use his example) defamation might be handled differently from identity theft; but if the RDS user
in both cases is a private party, do they need to be separate use case examples? Same question if in both cases “A” is law enforcement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">One additional point on granularity: there might be two separate use cases even in the private party requester (A=private party) situation, depending on whether A is seeking to contact the registrant, or is
simply seeking to identify an address where the registrant can be served with legal process. I believe the former case is far more common than the latter, but both could occur, and they ought to be treated separately because the latter would seemingly require
data with different characteristics than the former. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Stephanie’s question goes (among other things) to Karnika’s last paragraph. Where the registrant is using a proxy registration service, should we assume that the proposed consensus policy regarding accreditation
now pending before the ICANN board will be in place? Or should we assume the status quo? This could change the nature of the use case.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Steve Metalitz <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>karnika<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 25, 2016 2:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Thankyou Stephanie and Michele for your valuable inputs. I think we should discuss this in next meeting so that other use cases can also be developed accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Karnika Seth <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Perrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 July 2016 23:27<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">Just as a question, when we do use cases are we supposed to put in hypotheticals or talk about them as they are now? Eg tiered access does not exist at the moment, do we imagine
our use cases as we would like to see them? Sorry not to have been paying close enough attention to this.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">Stephanie Perrin</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 2016-07-24 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Karnika</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Thanks for the example.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">In order to make it easier to process use cases I’d recommend you break them out as specifically as possible.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">So defamation would be quite different to identity theft.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Regards</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Michele</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">From: </span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of karnika
<a href="mailto:karnika@sethassociates.com"><karnika@sethassociates.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 23 July 2016 at 01:51<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I have prepared an Example Use case which is attached herewith. Please feel free to comment and give your inputs so that we can discuss it in our future meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">With Regards,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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