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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pardon me for failing to send regrets. I went to bed early and missed the meeting. Thanks to all for the final wordsmithing of the problem statement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathalie Peregrine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'GNSO Secretariats' <gnso-secs@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for Next-Gen RDS PDP WG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Next-Gen RDS PDP Working group call
held on </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wednesday</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> 17 August 2016 at 05:00 UTC.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Nathalie Peregrine:Dear All, Welcome to the Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group call on Wednesday 17 August 2017 2016 at 05:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Nathalie Peregrine:If you wish to speak during the call, please either dial into the audio bridge and give the operator the password RDS, OR click on the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Nathalie Peregrine:Agenda page: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/ZgisAw">https://community.icann.org/x/ZgisAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome everybody!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:I sent regrets for this meeting, and I bet I won't last<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Chuck Gomes:1 more minute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:I've a meeting at 10:00 my time (it's 1:00 here) that I chair<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:so I will probably drop early. So more regrets :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Nathalie Peregrine:Thank you Andrew for bringing this to my attention, we will mark you as present regardless of the duration of your attendance :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):8am<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:@Nathalie: it's good to know that even if I flake out I am some sort of participant ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:We hear you, Alex.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:The only worry I have about this is the suggestion that those who are outside the enumerated list are still part of the "some entities" who
have the anonymity and privacy requirements. Who are these others? But I don't care to much about this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:Looks good, Alex. Thanks for all the hard work (you and the drafting team)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Beth Allegretti:+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):are they secret stakeholders?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:Jim is asking basically the worry I have<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lisa Phifer:the WG is tasked with defining the purpose of the RDS, not just reviewing it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:ok, now he's really hitting what I'm worried about it :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:valid point, Alan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:and good points, Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Stephanie Perrin:I think we all worry that each document we come up with becomes super important in that adjudication process. I would agree with the concern
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Marina Lewis:Based on our discussions in Helsinki, I believe this problem statement was meant as a tool to aid in our discussions, not a constraint.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Alex Deacon:in the sub group we called it an executive summary of the charter. its not meant to change/modify the charter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:Very helpful, Chuck, thanks. It might be useful to say something about working goal, like what Rod just said. Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:And again what Alan is saying: rough principles of operation, not rules<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lisa Phifer:suggested text: Note that this problem statement is meant as a tool to aid in discussion, consistent with but not a constraint on the Working
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jim Galvin (Afilias):Ok Chuck.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jim Galvin (Afilias):The changes that Lisa (apologies if it was someone else) made address my first concern. Specifically, changing "the aforementioned"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jim Galvin (Afilias):"meet the needs" -> "meet the needs, as described further below,"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:Key thing for me: the "meet the needs" part has working priority to the tech choice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:I believe this is consistent with charter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Marina Lewis:@Stephanie - I think this was meant as just colorful intro language. I don't read so much into this. Again, this is a tool and we are constrained
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Alex Deacon:We must not however set policy that will limit future and now unknown users/innovation/etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Alan Greenberg:We are going to have to balance a lot of competing needs. We will NOT meet all the needs by definition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:I expect Jim's approach will work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Alan Greenberg:We are taking a clean concise statement and not adding bumps on to it to make sure that no one will misunderstand. THAT is why I wanted confirmation
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Stephanie Perrin:+1 andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Stephanie Perrin:At the risk of sounding like a former bureaucrat, I would like to add "to the extent possible" at the end of the third paragraph.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Stephanie Perrin:Rhetorical flourish which is giving me heartburn....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:agree with delete the "existing and &c"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Marina Lewis:We can lose the "excision and ever evolving Internet" if that's too problematic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lisa Phifer:posslble alt text for first sentence: tasked with defining the requirements for and (if appropriate) policies associated with...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Stephanie Perrin:+1 to DNS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Marina Lewis:I'm happy with that first red-line comment as is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:yeah, sorry, couldn't edit in vox well on demand :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:something like what I see. Thnaks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Alex Deacon:Many thanks to the other members of the sub-group who all contributed to this proposed version. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:completely agree this is happpening now, and the right thing is to make that better<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:for the transcript: I'm very sorry I've been careless about stating my name. It's andrew sullivan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Nathalie Peregrine:Thank you Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:I agree completely with Rod here that it's already a use case, but this offers a plan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kal Feher:Under data elements the data is @registration. if an update has been made since registration, should that information also be collected?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lisa Phifer:admin contact is often the party you need to reach for domain name renewal, transfer, purchase, etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Stephanie Perrin:exactly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lisa Phifer:@Andrew - this is where the EWG's purpose-based contacts came from, to unpack the overloaded tech/admin contacts in today's WHOIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:not inconsistent with what Alan and Stephanie said earlier (incl in chat)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:Thanks, Rod<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:+1 Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> andrew sullivan:keep in mind that any reputation service automatically means that those with _good_ reoutation win<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Fabricio Vayra:thanks ... zzzzz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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