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<p>I would suggest that there is a different camp: <br>
Service providers (potentially part of the domain name industry)
that desire a system of data collection and storage that is 100%
in line with legal requirements for the collection and storage of
and access to such data to avoid being accessories to illegal
violations of their customers' rights!</p>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.08.2016 um 00:40 schrieb Mark
Svancarek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Consumers,
the domain name industry, governments, and intellectual
property owners, and individual registrants all have a
vested interest in an RDS system which contains accurate
and complete registration data…. These stakeholders have
similar yet distinct requirements regarding the particular
data which should be collected and the conditions under
which it can be viewed.
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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#2:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Additionally,
there are some entities which desire anonymity for free
speech and personal safety reasons, and their requirements
regarding data collection and data access may be at odds
with the aforementioned stakeholders.
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sam Lanfranco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Aaron <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gca@icginc.com"><gca@icginc.com></a>; Gomes,
Chuck <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"><cgomes@verisign.com></a>; Ayden Férdeline
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"><icann@ferdeline.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> RDS PDP WG <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For WG Review -
Redlined Problem Statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Greg, As I understand it the "two camps" are just the
providers of data and the users of data.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The wording might be <span style="color:#660000">"...or
other groups, may have interests as providers of data or as
users of data depending on circumstances."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sam L.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">On
8/18/2016 2:58 PM, Greg Aaron wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Attached
is a revised draft, as requested. Red-line and comments
are turned on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">The
first paragraph now quotes from the WG’s charter. The
last draft paraphrased, which left out relevant sections
of the WG’s mission. (Quoting from source docs can help
us avoid omissions, scope creep, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">A
question: the last draft said “Members of the global
population of end-users, whether they are individuals,
organizations, companies, or other groups, may fall into
either camp depending on circumstances.” </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">What
are the two camps being referred to, and what are we
trying to say with this sentence? It does not seem to be
about anonymous registrants in the preceding sentence,
otherwise we’d say “registrants” rather than “end-users.”
Are we trying to say that there is a wide range of
end-users and they may have various views on the issues
depending on their use cases and circumstances?
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">All
best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">--Greg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Lanfran@Yorku.ca">Lanfran@Yorku.ca</a> Skype: slanfranco<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com">http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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