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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks so much for
this reply! Helps a lot; when one is not in this business, it
is hard to imagine the details.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-08-24 21:28, Rob Golding wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:ae8ca926729ff46a2abb7a4cf1a23e66@astutium.com"
type="cite">On 2016-08-24 23:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I too would like to heed Chuck's advice,
but have a burning question:
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Do registries have any way of distinguishing between bots and
people,
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in their citing of stats? If so, how?
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Speaking as a Registrar, we can/do, so I'd certainly expect it of
Registries:
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* multiple queries in a very short space of time
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* regular / consistent queries of the same domains
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* queries of large numbers of domains from the same ip
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etc
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Most bots are usually pretty obvious - there are the 'clever' and
'responsible' bots/bot-authors/bot-using-orgs that spread load and
not normally trying to "hide" who they are, so are given more
latitude than others
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Abusive levels of whois queries tend to get banned and even a
handful of queries from a single source can get you blocked by
many registrars and registries for a period
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It can be a pain with com/net as the only current way to get the
contact details (until the thick-whois project completes) as a
gaining registrar is via the losing registrar whois server - some
dont work reliably, some block you at very low levels from radar
registered ips, lots dont work over ipv6 etc
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Hit one recently who blocked you at *4 queries* in 10 minutes - a
problem when the registrant was moving over 20 domains !
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A lot of whois 'bots' aren't the right/best/appropriate way to get
the data they're after anyway - a case of a little knowlege being
dangerous - badly thought out drop-catcher type bots being one
category that do excessive queries on the same domains which is
not proper solution for what they're wanting to achieve
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Rob
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