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    <p>Hi Greg,</p>
    <p>you said it would be difficult but not it would be impossible,
      right? So I would assume the contractual requirement would still
      be accomplishable even without special access. A lot of the
      required data would also be in the registry databases as well,
      such as nameserver data, registration dates, etc, so no access to
      the RDS would be required for that purpose.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.09.2016 um 00:04 schrieb Greg
      Aaron:<br>
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              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Derived
              requirement: the data must be available for this stated
              purpose.  If something is required (as in this case by a
              contract), then one must have the means to accomplish it. 
              <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                Gomes, Chuck [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">mailto:cgomes@verisign.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:58 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Greg Aaron <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gca@icginc.com">&lt;gca@icginc.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from
                today's RDS PDP WG meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I don't question that at all Greg but
            what is the possible requirement?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Chuck<br>
            <br>
            Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
            On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Greg Aaron &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gca@icginc.com">gca@icginc.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Dear
                Chuck:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">It
                is very difficult to perform DA-D43-R03 (assess whether
                domains in the TLD are being used to perpetrate security
                threats) without looking at registration data.  Review
                of registration dates, nameservers, contact data, etc.
                are often required to perform thatdiligence.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">BTW,
                this GAC safeguard was then incorporated into the nTLD
                contracts, Specification 11 paragraph 3b, which says
                that registry operators are also required to record
                actions taken as a result of these periodic security
                checks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">So
                I suggest we leave it in.
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">All
                best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">--Greg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:27 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from
                    today's RDS PDP WG meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In
                my review of the eight (8) possible requirements in the
                attached file, I think it is obvious that none of them
                are relevant to the RDS and hence should be deleted from
                the v.4 of the triaged list of possible requirements. 
                If anyone, disagrees with my assessment, please identify
                any of the possible requirements that you think are
                relevant to the RDS and explain why so that the WG can
                discuss.  If not, I suggest that in our next meeting
                that quickly finalize a decision to delete them all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lisa Phifer<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:54 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes from
                    today's RDS PDP WG meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear all,<br>
              <br>
              With regard to action item #3 below, attached please find
              a small excerpt from draft 4 of the triaged possible
              requirements list, containing only those PRs marked "??"
              for review and possible deletion. During triage, we could
              not find a direct link between these PRs and registration
              directory services and so were unable to assign them codes
              and keywords.  WG members are therefore asked to consider
              if and how these flagged PRs are relevant to the RDS.<br>
              <br>
              Best regards,<br>
              Lisa<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              At 12:33 AM 9/21/2016, Marika Konings wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><i>3. Review Draft 4 of triaged
                possible requirements list<br>
              </i>·  Discuss possible deletion of flagged PRs (those
              marked "??")<br>
              ·  Discuss WG feedback on phase, code, and keyword
              mappings<br>
              ·  Identify essential missing inputs (if any) and plan to
              include them<br>
               <br>
              <b>Action item #2</b>: WG members to review latest version
              of triaged possible requirements, including specific
              questions identified, in order to commence deliberations.
              <br>
               <br>
              <b>Action item #3</b>: Staff to circulate possible
              deletion of flagged PRs to mailing list to encourage input
              by WG members ahead of next week's meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
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