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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I would suggest that
if you boil it down to this, you need to say "</font></font>
<font size="+2"><font size="+1">The Purpose of RDS is to <b><i>manage</i></b>
access to information about Domain Names, Name Servers and
Registrars in a TLD. (I would also be tempted to add "in
accordance with policy and relevant law" but I realize we need
to limit the hobby horses we let into this corral)</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+2"><font size="+1">I appreciate this effort to
condense the thing.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+2"><font size="+1">Stephanie</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-10-04 09:40, Gomes, Chuck
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Marc,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In your last
suggestion, are you suggesting that all four purpose
statements (1, 2, 3a and 3b) could be replaced with your
suggested statement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Marc<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I appreciate the concerns Chuck and others
have raised that we are spending too much time on the RDS
statement of purpose. I know many of us (myself included) are
anxious to get to get to the requirements deliberation phase.
That said it’s important that we do a proper job drafting the
RDS statement of purpose. As a PDP we’ll be judged on the
quality of our work and the statement of purpose will be a
very visible output. Rushing through this will not serve us
well in the long run<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">With a goal of wrapping this up quickly and
efficiently in mind, I’ll skip the intro and goals section and
get right to the purpose section.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Purpose 1: A
purpose of gTLD registration data is to provide information
about the lifecycle of a domain name (as specified by ICANN’s
Diagram of gTLD Lifecycle) to enable management of a domain
name registration.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that the first part of that
statement “…provide information about the lifecycle of a
domain name (as specified by ICANN’s Diagram of gTLD
Lifecycle)” is a purpose of RDS. The second part however “to
enable management of a domain name registration” does not
belong in a purpose statement. This deals with a potential
use case which I’m sure we’ll discuss in the requirements
deliberation phase. I would suggest an updated purpose 1
read: “A purpose of gTLD registration data is to provide
information about the lifecycle of a domain name (as specified
by ICANN’s Diagram of gTLD Lifecycle).”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Purpose 2: A
purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access
to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”)
is to provide information that is needed by authorized parties
to operate a gTLD generic top-level domain name in the DNS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have concerns with this second purpose
statement. Purpose 2 provides a definition of RDS and one
that I don’t feel is accurate. RDS does not collect or
maintain gTLD registration data. It does provide access to
that data, but as I said on the call the Registration system
itself that registries make accessible to registrars via EPP
is the system that collects and maintains gTLD registrations
data. For purpose 2 how about: “A purpose of RDS is to
provide information that is needed by authorized parities to
operate a generic top-level domain name in the DNS”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Purpose 3:
Further specific purposes of the RDS include:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->To enable contact with
registrants, registrars, (registries?), and proxy/privacy
service providers associated with gTLD domain names, for
specific policy-defined purposes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->To enable release of accurate
gTLD registration data that may not otherwise be publicly
available, under specific and explicit policy-defined
conditions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m not sure why this is broken into a 3a
and 3b. They don’t appear related and should be purpose 3 and
4 respectively. RDS doesn’t include registry data, so only
registrants, registrars and proxy/privacy providers apply.
The “for specific policy-defined purposes” doesn’t belong in a
RDS purpose statement, it’s more appropriate to the
requirements deliberation phase. An updated Purpose 3 would
read: “A purpose of RDS is to facilitate contact with
registrants, registrars and proxy/privacy service providers
associated with generic top-level domain names.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For 3b I don’t necessarily agreed with
“accurate” in the purpose statement. Having accurate data may
be a goal, but the purpose is to display the data of record.
In fact a potential use case is to facilitate the correction
of inaccurate data. The “under specific and explicit
policy-defined conditions” again refers to a potential
requirement of RDS but not a purpose. A new purpose 4 would
read: “A purpose of RDS is to enable the release of gTLD
registration data that may not otherwise be publicly
available.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at these 4 purposes I think there
is a theme. You could say that they could all be rolled up in
the statement “The purpose of RDS is to provide access to
information about domain names in a TLD.” As Whois today also
provides information about Registrars and Name Servers,
perhaps a more fulsome consolidated RDS purpose statement
could be:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The Purpose of RDS
is to provide access to information about Domain Names, Name
Servers and Registrars in a TLD.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marc Anderson<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find
attached for your review the updated statement of purpose
which aims to reflect the changes discussed during
yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this
version, especially the section ‘<span style="color:black">Specific
Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory
Services’, and share your input with the mailing list
prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of
WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide
updated language for two specific parts of the document
which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your
comments on those parts until the proposed language has
been circulated.
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Marika</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt">Marika Konings</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names
and Numbers (ICANN) </span><span
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