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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree Chris, my
point to those insisting on accuracy in the actual RDS, is
that if someone is a real miscreant (as opposed to someone who
forgot to send in a change of address, as most of us have done
at some point) the registrars have additional information that
would help us track them down. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Let us not
underestimate what secure ID checking actually costs for
governments. Pensioners from several European countries have
to go to Canadian Service Canada offices to identify
themselves annually, to prove they are alive and still deserve
a cheque. Someone has to verify their identity (not so easy)
and address, process them, and certify whatever paperwork is
required (in this case, I think the employee has to a
commissioner of oaths but I could be wrong there.) This is
for pension cheques, worth considerably more than a domain
name. I realize that the Chinese registration authorities
were working on biometric identification of registrants, but I
don't think that idea is going to catch on in Europe or North
American any time soon. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Every time I show up
at a hospital in my province, for a test or xray or
appointment, they verify the information that I have on file
(reading it out to the whole waiting room, a privacy complaint
I plan to file as soon I get bored at ICANN). Those minutes
of staff time are theoretically justified by the amount of
healthcare fraud that goes on, but the nexus between the
service and the verification is a lot closer, and once again
the financial implications are vastly different.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Cheers Stephanie<br>
</font></font></p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-10-07 19:22, Chris Pelling
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:1779466478.62579.1475882571906.JavaMail.zimbra@netearth.net"
type="cite">
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<div>Hi Stephanie,<br>
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</div>
<div>I would love as my olive branch put out yesterday to have
the ability to authenticate what we have as being true /
correct but until the governments of this world get together
and suggest/provide a means of proving a person who is
registering a domain is in fact the ACTUAL person doing it -
the data received cannot be totally 100% accurate.<br
data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__">Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Chris</div>
<div><br>
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<div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Stephanie Perrin"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Richard Leaning" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net"><rleaning@ripe.net></a>, "Greg
Shatan" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"><gregshatanipc@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, 7 October, 2016 21:15:26<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<p><span data-mce-style="font-size: xx-small;"
style="font-size: xx-small;" size="+1"><span
data-mce-style="font-family: Lucida Grande;"
style="font-family: Lucida Grande;" face="Lucida Grande">Well
the registrar has quite a bit of information about the
registrant that is not necessarily in the RDS/WHOIS.</span></span></p>
<p><span data-mce-style="font-size: xx-small;"
style="font-size: xx-small;" size="+1"><span
data-mce-style="font-family: Lucida Grande;"
style="font-family: Lucida Grande;" face="Lucida Grande">SP</span></span><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-10-07 14:20, Richard
Leaning wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:A2DC87A1-A405-4FE7-AA7A-9E82DD34DDCD@ripe.net">
Thats Greg for articulating it so well.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">all i was going to say was - </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">'You can’t contact someone if the contact
information is inaccurate’</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">So i can’t see how you can split the two.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">Richard Leaning</div>
<div class="">External Relations</div>
<div class="">RIPE NCC</div>
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<blockquote class="">
<div class="">On 7 Oct 2016, at 17:21, Greg Shatan
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class=""
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It might
be useful to bring in the findings of the WHOIS
review team on this point. There have been
multiple discussions of contactability and
accuracy in various ICANN groups. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We don't
need to choose between "accuracy" and
"contactability" to have this discussion. Quite
the opposite. These are related concepts and
our discussion needs to consider both
concepts. Contactability can be correlated to
"functional accuracy" and also to certain amount
of "fault tolerance" in the data. Inaccuracy in
some fields is highly detrimental to
contactability, in others not so much.
Sometimes a certain combination of inaccuracies
is fatal to contactability. In other words,
contactability informs the discussion of
accuracy, and vice versa.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at
10:13 AM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"
class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class=""><span data-mce-style="font-size:
xx-small;" style="font-size: xx-small;"
size="+1"><span
data-mce-style="font-family: Lucida
Grande;" style="font-family: Lucida
Grande;" face="Lucida Grande">Indeed,
I think we should talk about
contactable, not "accurate". This was
the result of similar discussions of
the WHOIS review team, as I understand
it, accuracy was defined as
contactable. It makes sense to me. I
realize that others want more data and
more accuracy, but that is their goal,
not necessarily the goal of this pdp.
The goal of privacy advocates, or
those who wish to see data protection
law implemented (and I do realize we
are few in number) is to minimize the
collection of information to what is
necessary.</span></span></p>
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xx-small;" style="font-size: xx-small;"
size="+1"><span
data-mce-style="font-family: Lucida
Grande;" style="font-family: Lucida
Grande;" face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</span></span><br
class="">
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<div
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-cite-prefix">On
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Blacknight wrote:<br class="">
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style="color:windowtext" class="">A
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“Ireland’.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">Is
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speaking yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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they still reachable? Of course they
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:
</b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a>
on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Friday 7
October 2016 at 00:42<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Mark Svancarek
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"
target="_blank"><marksv@microsoft.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%" class=""></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""> </span></p>
</div>
<p class=""><span class="">Not at all,
ordinary people make mistakes all
the time. However, rarely would
this kind of mistake render the
person/organization un-contactable,
which it seems to me is the evil we
are trying to avoid with bad data.
On the other hand, criminals have a
goal of being untraceable, so will
continue to make sure they are not
located, right?</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">SP</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-10-06
19:20, Mark Svancarek wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">There
seems to be a presumption that bad
data is caused entirely by bad
people. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">Do
we actually have data showing
which fraction of bad data is
created with criminal intent, and
which fraction is just people
being lazy or careless and then
never being held accountable by
the data actually being verified?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
name="m_2007596586480275167__MailEndCompose"><span
style="color:windowtext"
class=""> </span></a><br
data-mce-bogus="1">
</p>
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<b class=""><span
style="color:windowtext"
class="">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"
class=""> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie
Perrin<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b>
Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:09
PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your
review - updated RDS Statement
of Purpose</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=""><span class="">I agree
with those pushing back on
including a commitment to accuracy
in this statement of purpose. I
think there are a number of sound
reasons for this. Those of us who
push back are not advocating for
bad data, that would be silly.
What we are addressing is the
futility of attempting to get the
criminal element to put good data
in their registration data. If we
force them, we drive ID theft.
Here are a few of my reasons:</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">1.
Governments actually do not
usually invest taxpayers money
verifying citizen data, they
provide penalties for having
inaccurate data and leave it at
that. Verifying address and phone
number, given the mobility of the
population in the countries I am
familiar with from my past
government service (US, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, and UK) is
expensive and there is very little
way to enforce it. This being the
case, why would we force ICANN to
do this? The cost inevitably
would fall on the Registrars and
registries, and be passed on to
the end users.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">2. As
mentioned above, any pressure to
improve data quality can hardly be
expected to get criminals to give
their accurate data, it will drive
them to steal good data.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">3. The
vast majority of people are
actually honest. I do realize
that there is a high volume of
cybercrime, but penalizing the
majority of end users for the
actions of a few (even if those
actions result in a high volume of
phishing and malware etc) is not
good policy. There are other ways
to catch and dump bad domains.
Prosecution of malfeasant
registrants remains a problem, but
frankly how many can be prosecuted
across borders anyway?</span></p>
<p class=""><span
style="font-size:13.5pt" class="">4.
We do have questions about
accuracy that we need to address,
according to our charter. The
purpose of this purpose statement
is to boil down our business
requirements for the activity in
which we are engaged. While many
actors want more accurate data,
how to get that accuracy is so
open to question that I regard its
inclusion in the statement of
purpose as setting impossible
goals. I would be happy to revise
this sentence as follows:</span></p>
<p class=""><span
style="font-family:"Lucida
Grande"" class="">To enable
release of accurate gTLD
registration data that may not
otherwise be publicly available,
under specific and explicit
policy-defined conditions Change
to </span></p>
<p class=""> </p>
<p class=""><span
style="font-family:"Lucida
Grande"" class="">To enable
release of gTLD registration data
that may not otherwise be publicly
available under specific
conditions defined by policy, and
to develop mechanisms to encourage
greater accuracy of data.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
Stephanie Perrin</p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
On 2016-10-06 16:48, Chris Pelling
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Hi Nick,</span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class=""> </span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">I would actually
concur with Volker. I see
your point but, can I ask a
question, the data collected
cannot be proven to any
certainty because we have
nothing as the
registry/registrar community
to "check" it against.
Simply checking say the
address against a city,
against a State, against a
postal/zip code then country
isnt proving the registrant
data is correct, its simply
proving that the registrant
can open a phone book and
pick an address out.</span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class=""> </span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Until tools are
created to prove that
registrant is actually at
address X, accuracy is a
rather moot point.</span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class=""> </span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">I agree with your
point about law enforcement
and bad data being a cost to
the public purse, but until
the governments can get
together and work out a
solution for the data to be
verified there is little
anyone can do.</span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class=""> </span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Registrant giving
fake address = bad data</span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Registrant giving
correct address of neighbour
= bad data</span></p>
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correct data = good,
verifiable. Maybe the
governments can work out a
solution to being able to
verify their citizens data.</span></p>
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find a solution that is
workable and commercially
viable, the governments and
LEA can then use the data
with some surety to its
worthiness - although this
is a totally separate topic,
I would like to sit down and
discuss it further - the
governments getting together
and helping this work.</span></p>
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<b class="">To: </b>"Volker
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<b class="">Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your
review - updated RDS
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comments Volker! I guess
it's all about the
perspective you view it
from I suppose. The impact
of bad data on law
enforcement investigations
can also be waste of
valuable time and cost.
Except the cost comes out
of of the public purse...</span></p>
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2016 at 17:23, Volker
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wrote:<br class="">
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<p
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"> <span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana" class="">Arguments to the
contrary tend
to look like a
Defense of Bad
Data. I can't
think of any
reasons to
defend bad
data, unless
one wants a
bad database.</span></p>
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<span
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class="">If you
want reasons, here
are a few:<br
class="">
1) Cost<br
class="">
2) Waste of
valuable time<br
class="">
3) Implementation
nightmares<br
class="">
4) No actual
standard that
applies worldwide<br
class="">
5) Legacy data
from legacy
sources<br
class="">
6) Customer
service nightmare</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana" class="">It's reasonable to
strive for
perfectly
accurate data,
but accept
that one will
never get
there. There
should be
commercially
reasonable and
proportionate
methods to get
as close as
practically
possible.</span></p>
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<span
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class="">One can
strive for
anything, but it
may never be
achieved,
consuming valuable
ressources on the
way. How many
people died trying
to reach the south
pole, the north
pole, the peak of
the Matterhorn,
before someone
made it. While
that first one to
make is famous
now, consider the
loss of life and
ressources wasted
we spent getting
there.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana" class="">We have not (in
this group)
discussed data
migration, but
assuming a
Garbage In,
Garbage Out
approach
doesn't seem
reasonable.
Whether all
the data is
validated
before
migration, or
just validated
as part of a
normal
validation
cycle, it
needs be
validated.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Existing data in is
the only feasible
solution if you
want a manageable
transition
process.<br
class="">
As for validation
by the road,
before designing a
process we should
define who is
going to have to
implement it,
process it, deal
with user
complaints, pay
for it, etc. What
is better data
worth to those who
have to pay for
it? Are those that
benefit from
better data going
to finance it
(including all
associated costs)?
If so, let's
talk....<br
class="">
<br class="">
Best,<br class="">
Volker</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">On Thu, Oct 6, 2016
at 11:00 AM,
Carlton
Samuels <<a
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class="">Not
to make too
fine a point
of it. But the
EWG was tasked
to re-imagine
an RDS. If
this PDP is
tasked to
build on the
works of EWG
maybe it'd be
useful to
re-visit
certain ideas
we now hold as
verities.</span></p>
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A Samuels</span></i><span
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</span><i
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class="">Mobile:
<a
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Maybe we need to
back up a bit
and go back to
the Charter
and what we
are supposed
to be doing.
Let me quote
directly from
it:</span></p>
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Quoting the
Charter on the
Board decision
to launch this
PDP:</span></p>
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class=""><span
class="">On 26
May, 2015, the
ICANN Board
passed
a resolution adopting
that Process
Framework and
reaffirming
its 2012
request for a
Board - initiated PDP to define the purpose of collecting, maintaining
and providing
access to gTLD
registration
data, and to
consider
safeguards for
protecting
data, using
the
recommendations
in the EWG’s
Final Report
as an input
to, and, if
appropriate,
as the
foundation for
a new gTLD
policy</span></i></p>
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- what The
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part of its
Phase 1
deliberations, the
PDP WG should
work to reach
consensus
recommendations by
considering, at a minimum, the following complex and inter-related
questions:</span></i></p>
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class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Users/Purposes: Who
should have
access to gTLD
registration
data and why?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
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class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Gated
Access: What
steps should
be taken to
control data
access for
each
user/purpose?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Data
Accuracy: What
steps should
be taken to
improve data
accuracy?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Data
Elements: What
data should be
collected,
stored, and
disclosed?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Privacy: What
steps are
needed to
protect data
and privacy?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Coexistence: What
steps should
be taken to
enable
next-generation
RDS
coexistence
with and
replacement of
the legacy
WHOIS system?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class="">Compliance: What
steps are
needed to
enforce these
policies?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> System
Model:What
system
requirements
must be
satisfied by
any
next-generation
RDS implementation?</span></i></p>
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class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Cost: What
costs will be
incurred and
how must they
be covered?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Benefits: What
benefits will
be achieved
and how will
they be
measured?</span></i></p>
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class=""><span
class=""></span></i><i
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Risks: What
risks do
stakeholders
face and how
will they be
reconciled?</span></i></p>
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<p
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class="">So accuracy’s
there - along
with a lot of
other issues.
That is not
saying that
accuracy is
not covered in
existing
requirements
on
registries/registrars.
But it
is giving a
broader
meaning to RDS
- i.e., it’s
not just about
collection,
maintenance
and access to
data; it’s
also about
safeguards,
etc - using
the EWG work.</span></p>
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<p
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class="">So
thanks Rob.
It’s a bit
premature to
rule issues
out when they
are well and
truly on our
table.</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">On 6 Oct 2016, at
6:37 am, Rod
Rasmussen <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rrasmussen@infoblox.com"
target="_blank"
class="">rrasmussen@infoblox.com</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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<p
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"> <span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Gotta chime in here,
since the EWG
provided a lot
of thinking on
this issue. If
you haven’t
already,
please review
the EWG report
sections on
data accuracy
and also the
concept of
data
validators and
their
relationship
to the RDS.
For example, I
would note
that a
well-provisioned
RDS would be
able to
provide some
sort of
validation
checks against
existing data
in the use
case of trying
to prevent
impersonation
(a form of
accuracy) of
an existing
registrant (a
big brand like
Facebook for
instance).
Another
concept we
found very
important in
the EWG is the
idea of
creating a
contact data
set tied to a
contact ID
that is
portable
between
registrars and
registries.
This provides
for the
purpose-based
contacts we
talk about at
great length
in the
report. It
also is key
for addressing
some of the
fundamental
operational
issues that
lead to
inaccurate,
out-of-date
data at
various
registrars.
If you have a
change in your
contact
information (a
new e-mail for
instance) and
hold multiple
roles in
conjunction
with many
domains, you
have a real
challenge
making updates
throughout the
universe of
your domain
names. Using
a data
validator and
then acting
via the RDS,
when you make
a change to
your contact
info, that
automatically
can be
reflected in
all domains
you are
associated
with and thus
improve
accuracy
tremendously.
Those are just
a couple
examples of
how an RDS can
be involved in
dealing with
accuracy
issues and
represent many
of the
concepts you
can address
once you look
beyond the
current
paradigm of
registrar
controlled
contact
information
anchored
specifically
to individual
domain names.
Accuracy in
the “generic”
system
(including
registries,
registrars,
RDS,
validators,
some other
group we
haven’t
thought of
yet) is
definitely
in-scope. How
that is done
can take many
forms and
could have
different
roles played
by different
participants
in the entire
ecosystem. </span></p>
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<p
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<p
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"> <span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">On Oct 5, 2016, at
10:36 AM, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank"
class="">
benny@nordreg.se</a> wrote:</span></p>
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But the data
accuracy can’t
be done in
RDS, the
accuracy is
done on a
registrar
level when
collecting
data.</p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
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RDS shall
under no
circumstances
alter any
information
received from
registry /
registrars and
showing any
different info
than what is
collected on
that level.</p>
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WG can look at
what accuracy
they want
registrars to
do yes, but
RDS doesn’t do
anything.</p>
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<span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"
class="">Med
vänliga
hälsningar /
Kind Regards
/ Med vennlig
hilsen</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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<span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"
class=""><br
class="">
Benny
Samuelsen<br
class="">
Registry
Manager -
Domainexpert<br
class="">
<br class="">
Nordreg AB -
ICANN
accredited
registrar</span></p>
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<span
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638</span></p>
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<span
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class="">Phone:
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B46.42197080" target="_blank" class=""> +46.42197080</a><br
class="">
Direct: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B47.32260201" target="_blank" class="">+47.32260201</a><br
class="">
Mobile: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B47.40410200" target="_blank" class="">+47.40410200</a></span><br
data-mce-bogus="1">
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<b class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">From:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on
behalf of
"Metalitz,
Steven" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:met@msk.com" target="_blank"
class="">met@msk.com</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Date:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday,
5 October 2016
at 19:32<br
class="">
<b class="">To:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'Marika
Konings' <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
target="_blank"
class="">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
Volker
Greimann <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank"
class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
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<span
style="color:#1f497d"
class="">Volker,
what is the
basis for your
assertion that
“</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d" class="">data will be presented
"as is" in
this system,
with no</span></p>
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<span
style="color:#1f497d"
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of any prior
cleanup work”?</span></p>
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<span
style="color:#1f497d"
class="">That
statement will
be true if we
ultimately
conclude that
the current
system is
adequate and
that we do not
recommend
establishment
of a new RDS.
However, if we
do recommend a
new system,
then
improvements
to data
accuracy are
very much on
the table, as
the charter
provision
quoted by
Marika
indicates. </span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
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<span
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Metalitz </span></p>
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<b class=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" class="">From:</span></b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" class=""> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" class=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On
Behalf Of<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Marika
Konings<br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
October 05,
2016 12:53 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Volker
Greimann; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span></p>
</div>
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Volker, please
note that the
PDP WG Charter
(see<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/x/E4xlAw"
target="_blank"
class=""><span
style="color:#954f72" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/E4xlAw</span></a>)
includes the
following
question:</p>
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<b class=""><i
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style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">part</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">of</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">its</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">Phase</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span>1<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">deliberations,</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span></i></b><i class="">the<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">PDP<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span>WG<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class="">should</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">work</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">to</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">reach
consensus</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">recommendations
by</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">considering,</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><b class=""><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">at</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>a<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">minimum</span></b><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">, the</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">following</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">complex</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span>and<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
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class="">inter-related
questions:</span></i></p>
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<i class=""><span
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<span
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class="">·</span><span
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class=""><i
class=""><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">Data Accuracy:</span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"
class=""> </span></i></b><i
class="">What<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">steps</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">should
be</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span>taken<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span>to<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">improve</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">data</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">accuracy?</span></i></p>
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<i class="">(……)</i></p>
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Best regards,</p>
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Marika</p>
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On 05/10/16
05:58, "<a
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target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org
on behalf of
Volker
Greimann</span></a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org
on behalf of
vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></a>>
wrote:</p>
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I would
move to strike
all references
to data
quality
altogether
from</p>
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this
document, e.g.
"current",
"accurate"
etc.</p>
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These are
already
required by
existing
policies and
agreements and
do</p>
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not have
to be
referenced
again at this
point. We
should focus
on having</p>
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to reflect
the data as
provided by
the RNH at
this stage,
not make any</p>
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presumptions about its quality.</p>
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<span
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After all,
data will be
presented "as
is" in this
system, with
no</p>
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presumption of any prior cleanup work.</p>
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<span
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Best,</p>
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Volker</p>
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<span
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>>
THE purpose of
the
"Registration
Data Service"
(hereafter
referred to</p>
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>>
as</p>
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>>
"RDS") is to
manage
authorised
parties'
access to
information
about</p>
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>>
[gTLD Domain
Names, gTLD
Nameservers,
gTLD
Registries and
gTLD</p>
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>>
Registrars]</p>
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>></p>
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>>
Purpose 3(a/b)
are possible
use cases, not
Purposes as
such</p>
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>></p>
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>>
"Accurate" is
definitely not
a term to use
if we ever
expect to
finish</p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
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>> -
"Current"
would be more
accurate (sic)
/ appropriate.</p>
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>
Agreed, with
one minor
suggestion:</p>
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></p>
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>
"access to
information
about generic
top-level
domain
registries,
registrars,
names, and
name servers."</p>
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></p>
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> Scott</p>
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>
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>
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Bei
weiteren
Fragen stehen
wir Ihnen
gerne zur
Verfügung.</p>
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Mit
freundlichen
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Volker A.
Greimann</p>
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-
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66386 St.
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