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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Well the registrar has
quite a bit of information about the registrant that is not necessarily
in the RDS/WHOIS.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-10-07 14:20, Richard Leaning
wrote:<br>
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Thats Greg for articulating it so well.
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<div class="">all i was going to say was - </div>
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<div class="">'You can’t contact someone if the contact
information is inaccurate’</div>
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<div class="">So i can’t see how you can split the two.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It might be
useful to bring in the findings of the WHOIS review
team on this point. There have been multiple
discussions of contactability and accuracy in various
ICANN groups. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We don't need
to choose between "accuracy" and "contactability" to
have this discussion. Quite the opposite. These are
related concepts and our discussion needs to consider
both concepts. Contactability can be correlated to
"functional accuracy" and also to certain amount of
"fault tolerance" in the data. Inaccuracy in some
fields is highly detrimental to contactability, in
others not so much. Sometimes a certain combination
of inaccuracies is fatal to contactability. In other
words, contactability informs the discussion of
accuracy, and vice versa.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:13
AM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
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<p class=""><font class="" size="+1"><font
class="" face="Lucida Grande">Indeed, I
think we should talk about contactable, not
"accurate". This was the result of similar
discussions of the WHOIS review team, as I
understand it, accuracy was defined as
contactable. It makes sense to me. I
realize that others want more data and more
accuracy, but that is their goal, not
necessarily the goal of this pdp. The goal
of privacy advocates, or those who wish to
see data protection law implemented (and I
do realize we are few in number) is to
minimize the collection of information to
what is necessary.</font></font></p>
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class="" face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br
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<div class="m_2007596586480275167moz-cite-prefix">On
2016-10-07 08:27, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">Here’s
one we run into all the time: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">A lot of
our clients in Northern Ireland do not
view themselves as being part of the UK,
so they’ll choose to list their country as
“Ireland’.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">Is the
data they supply “bad”? Strictly speaking
yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">Are they
still reachable? Of course they are.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From: </b><a
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class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr
class="">icann.org></a> on behalf
of Stephanie Perrin <a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr
class="">utoronto.ca></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Friday 7 October
2016 at 00:42<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Mark Svancarek <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"
target="_blank"><marksv@microsoft.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
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class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%"
class=""></span></p>
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<p class=""><span class="">Not at all,
ordinary people make mistakes all the
time. However, rarely would this kind of
mistake render the person/organization
un-contactable, which it seems to me is
the evil we are trying to avoid with bad
data. On the other hand, criminals have a
goal of being untraceable, so will
continue to make sure they are not
located, right?</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">SP</span></p>
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<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-10-06 19:20,
Mark Svancarek wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">There
seems to be a presumption that bad data
is caused entirely by bad people. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">Do we
actually have data showing which
fraction of bad data is created with
criminal intent, and which fraction is
just people being lazy or careless and
then never being held accountable by the
data actually being verified?</span></p>
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<b class=""><span
style="color:windowtext" class="">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext" class=""> <a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr
class="">org</a> [<a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr
class="">bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie
Perrin<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday,
October 6, 2016 3:09 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=""><span class="">I agree with
those pushing back on including a
commitment to accuracy in this statement
of purpose. I think there are a number
of sound reasons for this. Those of us
who push back are not advocating for bad
data, that would be silly. What we are
addressing is the futility of attempting
to get the criminal element to put good
data in their registration data. If we
force them, we drive ID theft. Here are
a few of my reasons:</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">1. Governments
actually do not usually invest taxpayers
money verifying citizen data, they
provide penalties for having inaccurate
data and leave it at that. Verifying
address and phone number, given the
mobility of the population in the
countries I am familiar with from my
past government service (US, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, and UK) is
expensive and there is very little way
to enforce it. This being the case, why
would we force ICANN to do this? The
cost inevitably would fall on the
Registrars and registries, and be passed
on to the end users.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">2. As mentioned
above, any pressure to improve data
quality can hardly be expected to get
criminals to give their accurate data,
it will drive them to steal good data.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">3. The vast
majority of people are actually honest.
I do realize that there is a high volume
of cybercrime, but penalizing the
majority of end users for the actions of
a few (even if those actions result in a
high volume of phishing and malware etc)
is not good policy. There are other
ways to catch and dump bad domains.
Prosecution of malfeasant registrants
remains a problem, but frankly how many
can be prosecuted across borders anyway?</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:13.5pt"
class="">4. We do have questions about
accuracy that we need to address,
according to our charter. The purpose
of this purpose statement is to boil
down our business requirements for the
activity in which we are engaged. While
many actors want more accurate data, how
to get that accuracy is so open to
question that I regard its inclusion in
the statement of purpose as setting
impossible goals. I would be happy to
revise this sentence as follows:</span></p>
<p class=""><span
style="font-family:"Lucida
Grande"" class="">To enable release
of accurate gTLD registration data that
may not otherwise be publicly available,
under specific and explicit
policy-defined conditions Change to </span></p>
<p class=""> </p>
<p class=""><span
style="font-family:"Lucida
Grande"" class="">To enable release
of gTLD registration data that may not
otherwise be publicly available under
specific conditions defined by policy,
and to develop mechanisms to encourage
greater accuracy of data.</span></p>
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Stephanie Perrin</p>
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On 2016-10-06 16:48, Chris Pelling
wrote:</p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Hi Nick,</span></p>
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<span
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class="">I would actually concur
with Volker. I see your point
but, can I ask a question, the
data collected cannot be proven to
any certainty because we have
nothing as the registry/registrar
community to "check" it against.
Simply checking say the address
against a city, against a State,
against a postal/zip code then
country isnt proving the
registrant data is correct, its
simply proving that the registrant
can open a phone book and pick an
address out.</span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Until tools are created
to prove that registrant is
actually at address X, accuracy
is a rather moot point.</span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">I agree with your point
about law enforcement and bad data
being a cost to the public purse,
but until the governments can get
together and work out a solution
for the data to be verified there
is little anyone can do.</span></p>
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<span
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class="">Registrant giving fake
address = bad data</span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Registrant giving correct
address of neighbour = bad data</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Registrant giving old
address where previously lived =
bad data - but at least it could
be validated against old correct
data and cross checked</span></p>
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<span
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">This list could be
endless :</span></p>
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<span
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">Registrant giving correct
data = good, verifiable. Maybe
the governments can work out a
solution to being able to verify
their citizens data.</span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
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<span
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"
class="">I would love to find a
solution that is workable and
commercially viable, the
governments and LEA can then use
the data with some surety to its
worthiness - although this is a
totally separate topic, I would
like to sit down and discuss it
further - the governments getting
together and helping this work.</span></p>
</div>
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<span
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<span
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class="">Kind regards,<br class="">
<br class="">
Chris</span></p>
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<b class=""><span
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<b class="">To: </b>"Volker
Greimann" <a
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<b class="">Sent: </b>Thursday, 6
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<b class="">Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review
- updated RDS Statement
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Volker! I guess it's all about
the perspective you view it from
I suppose. The impact of bad
data on law enforcement
investigations can also be waste
of valuable time and cost.
Except the cost comes out of of
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<span
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class="">Arguments
to the contrary
tend to look like
a Defense of Bad
Data. I can't
think of any
reasons to defend
bad data, unless
one wants a bad
database.</span></p>
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<span
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reasons, here are a few:<br
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1) Cost<br class="">
2) Waste of valuable
time<br class="">
3) Implementation
nightmares<br class="">
4) No actual standard
that applies worldwide<br
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5) Legacy data from
legacy sources<br
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6) Customer service
nightmare</span></p>
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<span
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class="">It's
reasonable to
strive for
perfectly accurate
data, but accept
that one will
never get there.
There should be
commercially
reasonable and
proportionate
methods to get as
close as
practically
possible.</span></p>
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class="">One can strive
for anything, but it may
never be achieved,
consuming valuable
ressources on the way.
How many people died
trying to reach the
south pole, the north
pole, the peak of the
Matterhorn, before
someone made it. While
that first one to make
is famous now, consider
the loss of life and
ressources wasted we
spent getting there.</span></p>
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class="">We have
not (in this
group) discussed
data migration,
but assuming a
Garbage In,
Garbage Out
approach doesn't
seem reasonable.
Whether all the
data is validated
before migration,
or just validated
as part of a
normal validation
cycle, it needs be
validated.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Existing data in is
the only feasible
solution if you want a
manageable transition
process.<br class="">
As for validation by the
road, before designing a
process we should define
who is going to have to
implement it, process
it, deal with user
complaints, pay for it,
etc. What is better data
worth to those who have
to pay for it? Are those
that benefit from better
data going to finance it
(including all
associated costs)? If
so, let's talk....<br
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Best,<br class="">
Volker</span></p>
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Oct 6, 2016 at
11:00 AM, Carlton
Samuels <<a
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to make too
fine a point
of it. But the
EWG was tasked
to re-imagine
an RDS. If
this PDP is
tasked to
build on the
works of EWG
maybe it'd be
useful to
re-visit
certain ideas
we now hold as
verities.</span></p>
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A Samuels</span></i><span
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Holly Raiche
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Maybe we need to
back up a bit
and go back to
the Charter
and what we
are supposed
to be doing.
Let me quote
directly from
it:</span></p>
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Quoting the
Charter on the
Board decision
to launch this
PDP:</span></p>
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class="">On 26
May, 2015, the
ICANN Board
passed
a resolution adopting
that Process
Framework and
reaffirming
its 2012
request for a
Board - initiated PDP to define the purpose of collecting, maintaining
and providing
access to gTLD
registration
data, and to
consider
safeguards for
protecting
data, using
the
recommendations
in the EWG’s
Final Report
as an input
to, and, if
appropriate,
as the
foundation for
a new gTLD
policy</span></i></p>
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part of its
Phase 1
deliberations, the
PDP WG should
work to reach
consensus
recommendations by
considering, at a minimum, the following complex and inter-related
questions:</span></i></p>
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should have
access to gTLD
registration
data and why?</span></i></p>
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Access: What
steps should
be taken to
control data
access for
each
user/purpose?</span></i></p>
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Accuracy: What
steps should
be taken to
improve data
accuracy?</span></i></p>
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Elements: What
data should be
collected,
stored, and
disclosed?</span></i></p>
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steps are
needed to
protect data
and privacy?</span></i></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Coexistence: What
steps should
be taken to
enable
next-generation
RDS
coexistence
with and
replacement of
the legacy
WHOIS system?</span></i></p>
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steps are
needed to
enforce these
policies?</span></i></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> System
Model:What
system
requirements
must be
satisfied by
any
next-generation
RDS implementation?</span></i></p>
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costs will be
incurred and
how must they
be covered?</span></i></p>
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benefits will
be achieved
and how will
they be
measured?</span></i></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"" class=""> Risks: What
risks do
stakeholders
face and how
will they be
reconciled?</span></i></p>
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class="">So accuracy’s
there - along
with a lot of
other issues.
That is not
saying that
accuracy is
not covered in
existing
requirements
on
registries/registrars.
But it
is giving a
broader
meaning to RDS
- i.e., it’s
not just about
collection,
maintenance
and access to
data; it’s
also about
safeguards,
etc - using
the EWG work.</span></p>
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thanks Rob.
It’s a bit
premature to
rule issues
out when they
are well and
truly on our
table.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">On 6 Oct 2016, at
6:37 am, Rod
Rasmussen <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rrasmussen@infoblox.com"
target="_blank"
class="">rrasmussen@infoblox.com</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"> <span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Gotta chime in here,
since the EWG
provided a lot
of thinking on
this issue. If
you haven’t
already,
please review
the EWG report
sections on
data accuracy
and also the
concept of
data
validators and
their
relationship
to the RDS.
For example, I
would note
that a
well-provisioned
RDS would be
able to
provide some
sort of
validation
checks against
existing data
in the use
case of trying
to prevent
impersonation
(a form of
accuracy) of
an existing
registrant (a
big brand like
Facebook for
instance).
Another
concept we
found very
important in
the EWG is the
idea of
creating a
contact data
set tied to a
contact ID
that is
portable
between
registrars and
registries.
This provides
for the
purpose-based
contacts we
talk about at
great length
in the
report. It
also is key
for addressing
some of the
fundamental
operational
issues that
lead to
inaccurate,
out-of-date
data at
various
registrars.
If you have a
change in your
contact
information (a
new e-mail for
instance) and
hold multiple
roles in
conjunction
with many
domains, you
have a real
challenge
making updates
throughout the
universe of
your domain
names. Using
a data
validator and
then acting
via the RDS,
when you make
a change to
your contact
info, that
automatically
can be
reflected in
all domains
you are
associated
with and thus
improve
accuracy
tremendously.
Those are just
a couple
examples of
how an RDS can
be involved in
dealing with
accuracy
issues and
represent many
of the
concepts you
can address
once you look
beyond the
current
paradigm of
registrar
controlled
contact
information
anchored
specifically
to individual
domain names.
Accuracy in
the “generic”
system
(including
registries,
registrars,
RDS,
validators,
some other
group we
haven’t
thought of
yet) is
definitely
in-scope. How
that is done
can take many
forms and
could have
different
roles played
by different
participants
in the entire
ecosystem. </span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">On Oct 5, 2016, at
10:36 AM, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank"
class="">
benny@nordreg.se</a> wrote:</span></p>
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But the data
accuracy can’t
be done in
RDS, the
accuracy is
done on a
registrar
level when
collecting
data.</p>
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RDS shall
under no
circumstances
alter any
information
received from
registry /
registrars and
showing any
different info
than what is
collected on
that level.</p>
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WG can look at
what accuracy
they want
registrars to
do yes, but
RDS doesn’t do
anything.</p>
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<span
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vänliga
hälsningar /
Kind Regards
/ Med vennlig
hilsen</span></p>
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class="">
Benny
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class="">
Registry
Manager -
Domainexpert<br
class="">
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ICANN
accredited
registrar</span></p>
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class="">Phone:
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<b class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">From:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr class="">bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of
"Metalitz,
Steven" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:met@msk.com" target="_blank"
class="">met@msk.com</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Date:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday,
5 October 2016
at 19:32<br
class="">
<b class="">To:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'Marika
Konings' <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
target="_blank"
class="">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
Volker
Greimann <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank"
class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span></p>
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<span
style="color:#1f497d"
class="">Volker,
what is the
basis for your
assertion that
“</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d" class="">data will be presented
"as is" in
this system,
with no</span></p>
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<span
style="color:#1f497d"
class="">presumption
of any prior
cleanup work”?</span></p>
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<span
style="color:#1f497d"
class="">That
statement will
be true if we
ultimately
conclude that
the current
system is
adequate and
that we do not
recommend
establishment
of a new RDS.
However, if we
do recommend a
new system,
then
improvements
to data
accuracy are
very much on
the table, as
the charter
provision
quoted by
Marika
indicates. </span></p>
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<span
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Metalitz </span></p>
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<b class=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" class="">From:</span></b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" class=""> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" class=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr
class="">icann.org</a>
[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr
class="">bounces@icann.org</a>]<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On
Behalf Of<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Marika
Konings<br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
October 05,
2016 12:53 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Volker
Greimann; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span></p>
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Volker, please
note that the
PDP WG Charter
(see<span
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target="_blank"
class=""><span
style="color:#954f72" class="">https://community.icann.<wbr class="">org/x/E4xlAw</span></a>)
includes the
following
question:</p>
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<b class=""><i
class="">As<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">part</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">of</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">its</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">Phase</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span>1<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">deliber<wbr class="">ations,</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span></i></b><i class="">the<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">PDP<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span>WG<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class="">should</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">work</span><span
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class=""> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">to</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">reach
consensus</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">recommendations
by</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">considering,</span><span
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class="">at</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>a<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">minimum</span></b><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">, the</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">following</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">complex</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span>and<span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">inte<wbr
class="">r-related
questions:</span></i></p>
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<span
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class="">·</span><span
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class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b
class=""><i
class=""><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">Data Accuracy:</span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"
class=""> </span></i></b><i
class="">What<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">steps</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">should
be</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span>taken<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span>to<span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"
class="">improve</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">data</span><span
class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">accur<wbr class="">acy?</span></i></p>
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<i class="">(……)</i></p>
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Best regards,</p>
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Marika</p>
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On 05/10/16
05:58, "<a
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target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr
class="">icann.org
on behalf of
Volker
Greimann</span></a>"
<<a
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target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr
class="">icann.org
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wrote:</p>
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I would
move to strike
all references
to data
quality
altogether
from</p>
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this
document, e.g.
"current",
"accurate"
etc.</p>
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These are
already
required by
existing
policies and
agreements and
do</p>
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not have
to be
referenced
again at this
point. We
should focus
on having</p>
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to reflect
the data as
provided by
the RNH at
this stage,
not make any</p>
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presumptions about its quality.</p>
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<span
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After all,
data will be
presented "as
is" in this
system, with
no</p>
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presumption of any prior cleanup work.</p>
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<span
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Best,</p>
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Volker</p>
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<span
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>>
THE purpose of
the
"Registration
Data Service"
(hereafter
referred to</p>
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>>
as</p>
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>>
"RDS") is to
manage
authorised
parties'
access to
information
about</p>
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<p
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>>
[gTLD Domain
Names, gTLD
Nameservers,
gTLD
Registries and
gTLD</p>
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>>
Registrars]</p>
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>></p>
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>>
Purpose 3(a/b)
are possible
use cases, not
Purposes as
such</p>
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>></p>
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>>
"Accurate" is
definitely not
a term to use
if we ever
expect to
finish</p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
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>> -
"Current"
would be more
accurate (sic)
/ appropriate.</p>
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>
Agreed, with
one minor
suggestion:</p>
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></p>
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>
"access to
information
about generic
top-level
domain
registries,
registrars,
names, and
name servers."</p>
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></p>
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> Scott</p>
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>
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Bei
weiteren
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wir Ihnen
gerne zur
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Mit
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Volker A.
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