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On Oct 7, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Well the registrar has quite a bit of information about the registrant that is not necessarily in the RDS/WHOIS.</font></font></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-10-07 14:20, Richard Leaning wrote:<br>
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Thats Greg for articulating it so well.
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It might be useful to bring in the findings of the WHOIS review team on this point. There have been multiple discussions of contactability and accuracy in various ICANN groups. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We don't need to choose between "accuracy" and "contactability" to have this discussion. Quite the opposite. These are related concepts and our discussion needs to consider both concepts.
Contactability can be correlated to "functional accuracy" and also to certain amount of "fault tolerance" in the data. Inaccuracy in some fields is highly detrimental to contactability, in others not so much. Sometimes a certain combination of inaccuracies
is fatal to contactability. In other words, contactability informs the discussion of accuracy, and vice versa.</div>
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<p class=""><font class="" size="+1"><font class="" face="Lucida Grande">Indeed, I think we should talk about contactable, not "accurate". This was the result of similar discussions of the WHOIS review team, as I understand it, accuracy was defined as contactable.
It makes sense to me. I realize that others want more data and more accuracy, but that is their goal, not necessarily the goal of this pdp. The goal of privacy advocates, or those who wish to see data protection law implemented (and I do realize we are few
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext" class="">Are they still reachable? Of course they are.</span></p>
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<b class="">Date: </b>Friday 7 October 2016 at 00:42<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Mark Svancarek <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_2007596586480275167moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" target="_blank">
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<p class=""><span class="">Not at all, ordinary people make mistakes all the time. However, rarely would this kind of mistake render the person/organization un-contactable, which it seems to me is the evil we are trying to avoid with bad data. On the other
hand, criminals have a goal of being untraceable, so will continue to make sure they are not located, right?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext" class="">Do we actually have data showing which fraction of bad data is created with criminal intent, and which fraction is just people being lazy or careless and then never being held accountable by the data
actually being verified?</span></p>
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<p class=""><span class="">I agree with those pushing back on including a commitment to accuracy in this statement of purpose. I think there are a number of sound reasons for this. Those of us who push back are not advocating for bad data, that would be silly.
What we are addressing is the futility of attempting to get the criminal element to put good data in their registration data. If we force them, we drive ID theft. Here are a few of my reasons:</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">1. Governments actually do not usually invest taxpayers money verifying citizen data, they provide penalties for having inaccurate data and leave it at that. Verifying address and phone number, given the mobility of the population
in the countries I am familiar with from my past government service (US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and UK) is expensive and there is very little way to enforce it. This being the case, why would we force ICANN to do this? The cost inevitably would
fall on the Registrars and registries, and be passed on to the end users.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">2. As mentioned above, any pressure to improve data quality can hardly be expected to get criminals to give their accurate data, it will drive them to steal good data.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="">3. The vast majority of people are actually honest. I do realize that there is a high volume of cybercrime, but penalizing the majority of end users for the actions of a few (even if those actions result in a high volume of phishing
and malware etc) is not good policy. There are other ways to catch and dump bad domains. Prosecution of malfeasant registrants remains a problem, but frankly how many can be prosecuted across borders anyway?</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:13.5pt" class="">4. We do have questions about accuracy that we need to address, according to our charter. The purpose of this purpose statement is to boil down our business requirements for the activity in which we are
engaged. While many actors want more accurate data, how to get that accuracy is so open to question that I regard its inclusion in the statement of purpose as setting impossible goals. I would be happy to revise this sentence as follows:</span></p>
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it against. Simply checking say the address against a city, against a State, against a postal/zip code then country isnt proving the registrant data is correct, its simply proving that the registrant can open a phone book and pick an address out.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">I agree with your point about law enforcement and bad data being a cost to the public purse, but until the governments can get together and work out a solution for the data to be verified there is little
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Registrant giving old address where previously lived = bad data - but at least it could be validated against old correct data and cross checked</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Registrant giving correct data = good, verifiable. Maybe the governments can work out a solution to being able to verify their citizens data.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">I would love to find a solution that is workable and commercially viable, the governments and LEA can then use the data with some surety to its worthiness - although this is a totally separate topic,
I would like to sit down and discuss it further - the governments getting together and helping this work.</span></p>
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<b class="">To: </b>"Volker Greimann" <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" class="">
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Interesting comments Volker! I guess it's all about the perspective you view it from I suppose. The impact of bad data on law enforcement investigations can also be waste of valuable time and cost. Except
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">On 6 October 2016 at 17:23, Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana" class="">Arguments to the contrary tend to look like a Defense of Bad Data. I can't think of any reasons to defend bad data, unless one wants a bad database.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana" class="">It's reasonable to strive for perfectly accurate data, but accept that one will never get there. There should be commercially reasonable and proportionate methods to get as close as practically possible.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">One can strive for anything, but it may never be achieved, consuming valuable ressources on the way. How many people died trying to reach the south pole, the north pole, the peak of the Matterhorn, before
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana" class="">We have not (in this group) discussed data migration, but assuming a Garbage In, Garbage Out approach doesn't seem reasonable. Whether all the data is validated before migration, or just validated
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<span class="">So accuracy’s there - along with a lot of other issues. That is not saying that accuracy is not covered in existing requirements on registries/registrars. But it is giving a broader meaning to RDS - i.e., it’s not just about collection, maintenance
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Gotta chime in here, since the EWG provided a lot of thinking on this issue. If you haven’t already, please review the EWG report sections on data accuracy and also the concept of data validators and
their relationship to the RDS. For example, I would note that a well-provisioned RDS would be able to provide some sort of validation checks against existing data in the use case of trying to prevent impersonation (a form of accuracy) of an existing registrant
(a big brand like Facebook for instance). Another concept we found very important in the EWG is the idea of creating a contact data set tied to a contact ID that is portable between registrars and registries. This provides for the purpose-based contacts
we talk about at great length in the report. It also is key for addressing some of the fundamental operational issues that lead to inaccurate, out-of-date data at various registrars. If you have a change in your contact information (a new e-mail for instance)
and hold multiple roles in conjunction with many domains, you have a real challenge making updates throughout the universe of your domain names. Using a data validator and then acting via the RDS, when you make a change to your contact info, that automatically
can be reflected in all domains you are associated with and thus improve accuracy tremendously. Those are just a couple examples of how an RDS can be involved in dealing with accuracy issues and represent many of the concepts you can address once you look
beyond the current paradigm of registrar controlled contact information anchored specifically to individual domain names. Accuracy in the “generic” system (including registries, registrars, RDS, validators, some other group we haven’t thought of yet) is definitely
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<b class=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">From:<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr class="">bounces@icann.org</a>>
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<b class="">Date:<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 5 October 2016 at 19:32<br class="">
<b class="">To:<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'Marika Konings' <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
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<b class="">Subject:<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span></p>
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<span style="color:#1f497d" class="">Volker, what is the basis for your assertion that “</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d" class="">data will be presented "as is" in this system, with no</span></p>
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<span style="color:#1f497d" class="">presumption of any prior cleanup work”?</span></p>
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<span style="color:#1f497d" class="">That statement will be true if we ultimately conclude that the current system is adequate and that we do not recommend establishment of a new RDS. However, if we do recommend a new system, then improvements to data accuracy
are very much on the table, as the charter provision quoted by Marika indicates. </span></p>
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr class="">bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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Volker, please note that the PDP WG Charter (see<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/x/E4xlAw" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">https://community.icann.<wbr class="">org/x/E4xlAw</span></a>)
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<b class=""><i class="">As<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">part</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">of</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">its</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">Phase</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span>1<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">deliber<wbr class="">ations,</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span></i></b><i class="">the<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">PDP<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span>WG<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class="">should</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">work</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><wbr class=""> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">to</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">reach
consensus</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">recommendations
by</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">considering,</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:.05pt" class=""> </span></span><b class=""><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">at</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>a<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">minimum</span></b><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">,
the</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">following</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">complex</span><span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span>and<span class="m_2007596586480275167m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt" class=""> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt" class="">inte<wbr class="">r-related
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On 05/10/16 05:58, "<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20Volker%20Greimann" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr class="">icann.org on behalf of Volker
Greimann</span></a>" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#954f72" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr class="">icann.org on
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