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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Indeed, I think we
should talk about contactable, not "accurate". This was the
result of similar discussions of the WHOIS review team, as I
understand it, accuracy was defined as contactable. It makes
sense to me. I realize that others want more data and more
accuracy, but that is their goal, not necessarily the goal of
this pdp. The goal of privacy advocates, or those who wish to
see data protection law implemented (and I do realize we are
few in number) is to minimize the collection of information to
what is necessary.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-10-07 08:27, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here’s
one we run into all the time:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A lot of
our clients in Northern Ireland do not view themselves as
being part of the UK, so they’ll choose to list their
country as “Ireland’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Is the
data they supply “bad”? Strictly speaking yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Are they
still reachable? Of course they are.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a>
on behalf of Stephanie Perrin
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 7 October 2016 at 00:42<br>
<b>To: </b>Mark Svancarek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"><marksv@microsoft.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review -
updated RDS Statement of Purpose<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande"">Not at all, ordinary people make mistakes all
the time. However, rarely would this kind of mistake render
the person/organization un-contactable, which it seems to me
is the evil we are trying to avoid with bad data. On the
other hand, criminals have a goal of being untraceable, so
will continue to make sure they are not located, right?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande"">SP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-10-06 19:20, Mark Svancarek
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">There
seems to be a presumption that bad data is caused entirely
by bad people.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Do we
actually have data showing which fraction of bad data is
created with criminal intent, and which fraction is just
people being lazy or careless and then never being held
accountable by the data actually being verified?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Perrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review
- updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande"">I agree with those pushing back on including
a commitment to accuracy in this statement of purpose. I
think there are a number of sound reasons for this. Those
of us who push back are not advocating for bad data, that
would be silly. What we are addressing is the futility of
attempting to get the criminal element to put good data in
their registration data. If we force them, we drive ID
theft. Here are a few of my reasons:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande"">1. Governments actually do not usually
invest taxpayers money verifying citizen data, they
provide penalties for having inaccurate data and leave it
at that. Verifying address and phone number, given the
mobility of the population in the countries I am familiar
with from my past government service (US, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, and UK) is expensive and there is
very little way to enforce it. This being the case, why
would we force ICANN to do this? The cost inevitably
would fall on the Registrars and registries, and be passed
on to the end users.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande"">2. As mentioned above, any pressure to
improve data quality can hardly be expected to get
criminals to give their accurate data, it will drive them
to steal good data.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande"">3. The vast majority of people are actually
honest. I do realize that there is a high volume of
cybercrime, but penalizing the majority of end users for
the actions of a few (even if those actions result in a
high volume of phishing and malware etc) is not good
policy. There are other ways to catch and dump bad
domains. Prosecution of malfeasant registrants remains a
problem, but frankly how many can be prosecuted across
borders anyway?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">4. We do have questions
about accuracy that we need to address, according to our
charter. The purpose of this purpose statement is to boil
down our business requirements for the activity in which
we are engaged. While many actors want more accurate
data, how to get that accuracy is so open to question that
I regard its inclusion in the statement of purpose as
setting impossible goals. I would be happy to revise this
sentence as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">To
enable release of accurate gTLD registration data that may
not otherwise be publicly available, under specific and
explicit policy-defined conditions Change to
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">To
enable release of gTLD registration data that may not
otherwise be publicly available under specific conditions
defined by policy, and to develop mechanisms to encourage
greater accuracy of data.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Stephanie Perrin<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 2016-10-06 16:48, Chris Pelling wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Hi
Nick,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">I
would actually concur with Volker. I see your point
but, can I ask a question, the data collected cannot
be proven to any certainty because we have nothing
as the registry/registrar community to "check" it
against. Simply checking say the address against a
city, against a State, against a postal/zip code
then country isnt proving the registrant data is
correct, its simply proving that the registrant can
open a phone book and pick an address out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Until
tools are created to prove that registrant is
actually at address X, accuracy is a rather moot
point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">I
agree with your point about law enforcement and bad
data being a cost to the public purse, but until the
governments can get together and work out a solution
for the data to be verified there is little anyone
can do.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Registrant
giving fake address = bad data</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Registrant
giving correct address of neighbour = bad data</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Registrant
giving old address where previously lived = bad data
- but at least it could be validated against old
correct data and cross checked</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">This
list could be endless :</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Registrant
giving correct data = good, verifiable. Maybe the
governments can work out a solution to being able to
verify their citizens data.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">I
would love to find a solution that is workable and
commercially viable, the governments and LEA can
then use the data with some surety to its worthiness
- although this is a totally separate topic, I would
like to sit down and discuss it further - the
governments getting together and helping this work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Just
a thought.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Kind
regards,<br>
<br>
Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">From:
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Shorey"
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<b>To: </b>"Volker Greimann" <a
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<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, 6 October, 2016 17:38:55<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Interesting
comments Volker! I guess it's all about the
perspective you view it from I suppose. The impact
of bad data on law enforcement investigations can
also be waste of valuable time and cost. Except
the cost comes out of of the public purse...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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to the contrary tend to look like a
Defense of Bad Data. I can't think
of any reasons to defend bad data,
unless one wants a bad database.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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you want reasons, here are a few:<br>
1) Cost<br>
2) Waste of valuable time<br>
3) Implementation nightmares<br>
4) No actual standard that applies
worldwide<br>
5) Legacy data from legacy sources<br>
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<span
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reasonable to strive for perfectly
accurate data, but accept that one
will never get there. There should
be commercially reasonable and
proportionate methods to get as
close as practically possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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can strive for anything, but it may never
be achieved, consuming valuable ressources
on the way. How many people died trying to
reach the south pole, the north pole, the
peak of the Matterhorn, before someone
made it. While that first one to make is
famous now, consider the loss of life and
ressources wasted we spent getting there.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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have not (in this group) discussed
data migration, but assuming a
Garbage In, Garbage Out approach
doesn't seem reasonable. Whether
all the data is validated before
migration, or just validated as part
of a normal validation cycle, it
needs be validated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Existing
data in is the only feasible solution if
you want a manageable transition process.<br>
As for validation by the road, before
designing a process we should define who
is going to have to implement it, process
it, deal with user complaints, pay for it,
etc. What is better data worth to those
who have to pay for it? Are those that
benefit from better data going to finance
it (including all associated costs)? If
so, let's talk....<br>
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Best,<br>
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fine a point of it. But the
EWG was tasked to re-imagine
an RDS. If this PDP is tasked
to build on the works of EWG
maybe it'd be useful to
re-visit certain ideas we now
hold as verities.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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A Samuels</span></i><span
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<span
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bit and go back to
the Charter and what
we are supposed to
be doing. Let me
quote directly from
it:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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- background:
Quoting the Charter
on the Board
decision to launch
this PDP:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i><span
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May, 2015, the
ICANN Board
passed
a resolution adopting
that Process
Framework and
reaffirming its
2012 request for
a
Board - initiated
PDP to define
the purpose of
collecting,
maintaining and
providing access
to gTLD
registration
data, and to
consider
safeguards for
protecting data,
using the
recommendations
in the EWG’s
Final Report as
an input to,
and, if
appropriate, as
the foundation
for a new gTLD
policy</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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what The Charter
tasked this Working
Group with:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i><span
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part of its
Phase 1
deliberations, the
PDP WG should
work to reach
consensus
recommendations by
considering, at
a minimum, the
following
complex and
inter-related
questions:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS""> Users/Purposes: Who
should have
access to gTLD
registration
data and why?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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steps should be
taken to control
data access for
each
user/purpose?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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Accuracy: What
steps should be
taken to improve
data accuracy?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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Elements: What
data should be
collected,
stored, and
disclosed?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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steps are needed
to protect data
and privacy?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS""> Coexistence: What
steps should be
taken to enable
next-generation
RDS coexistence
with and
replacement of
the legacy WHOIS
system?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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steps are needed
to enforce these
policies?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS""> System
Model:What
system
requirements
must be
satisfied by any
next-generation
RDS implementation?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS""> Cost: What
costs will be
incurred and how
must they be
covered?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS""> Benefits: What
benefits will be
achieved and how
will they be
measured?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS""> Risks: What
risks do
stakeholders
face and how
will they be
reconciled?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet
MS"">So accuracy’s
there - along with
a lot of other
issues. That is
not saying that
accuracy is not
covered in
existing
requirements on
registries/registrars.
But it is giving a
broader meaning to
RDS - i.e., it’s
not just about
collection,
maintenance and
access to data;
it’s also about
safeguards, etc -
using the EWG
work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet
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thanks Rob. It’s
a bit premature to
rule issues out
when they are well
and truly on our
table.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">On
6 Oct 2016, at
6:37 am, Rod
Rasmussen <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rrasmussen@infoblox.com"
target="_blank">rrasmussen@infoblox.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Gotta
chime in here,
since the EWG
provided a lot
of thinking on
this issue. If
you haven’t
already,
please review
the EWG report
sections on
data accuracy
and also the
concept of
data
validators and
their
relationship
to the RDS.
For example, I
would note
that a
well-provisioned
RDS would be
able to
provide some
sort of
validation
checks against
existing data
in the use
case of trying
to prevent
impersonation
(a form of
accuracy) of
an existing
registrant (a
big brand like
Facebook for
instance).
Another
concept we
found very
important in
the EWG is the
idea of
creating a
contact data
set tied to a
contact ID
that is
portable
between
registrars and
registries.
This provides
for the
purpose-based
contacts we
talk about at
great length
in the
report. It
also is key
for addressing
some of the
fundamental
operational
issues that
lead to
inaccurate,
out-of-date
data at
various
registrars.
If you have a
change in your
contact
information (a
new e-mail for
instance) and
hold multiple
roles in
conjunction
with many
domains, you
have a real
challenge
making updates
throughout the
universe of
your domain
names. Using
a data
validator and
then acting
via the RDS,
when you make
a change to
your contact
info, that
automatically
can be
reflected in
all domains
you are
associated
with and thus
improve
accuracy
tremendously.
Those are just
a couple
examples of
how an RDS can
be involved in
dealing with
accuracy
issues and
represent many
of the
concepts you
can address
once you look
beyond the
current
paradigm of
registrar
controlled
contact
information
anchored
specifically
to individual
domain names.
Accuracy in
the “generic”
system
(including
registries,
registrars,
RDS,
validators,
some other
group we
haven’t
thought of
yet) is
definitely
in-scope. How
that is done
can take many
forms and
could have
different
roles played
by different
participants
in the entire
ecosystem.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">On
Oct 5, 2016,
at 10:36 AM, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank">
benny@nordreg.se</a> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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But the data
accuracy can’t
be done in
RDS, the
accuracy is
done on a
registrar
level when
collecting
data.<o:p></o:p></p>
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RDS shall
under no
circumstances
alter any
information
received from
registry /
registrars and
showing any
different info
than what is
collected on
that level.<o:p></o:p></p>
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WG can look at
what accuracy
they want
registrars to
do yes, but
RDS doesn’t do
anything.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Med
vänliga
hälsningar /
Kind Regards
/ Med vennlig
hilsen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><br>
Benny
Samuelsen<br>
Registry
Manager -
Domainexpert<br>
<br>
Nordreg AB -
ICANN
accredited
registrar</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">IANA-ID:
638</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Phone:
<a
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href="tel:%2B46.42197080" target="_blank">
+46.42197080</a><br>
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<b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">From:<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of
"Metalitz,
Steven" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:met@msk.com" target="_blank">met@msk.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday,
5 October 2016
at 19:32<br>
<b>To:<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'Marika
Konings' <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
Volker
Greimann <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<span
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<span
style="color:#1F497D">Volker,
what is the
basis for your
assertion that
“</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">data will be presented "as is" in
this system,
with no</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="color:#1F497D">presumption
of any prior
cleanup work”?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
style="color:#1F497D">That
statement will
be true if we
ultimately
conclude that
the current
system is
adequate and
that we do not
recommend
establishment
of a new RDS.
However, if we
do recommend a
new system,
then
improvements
to data
accuracy are
very much on
the table, as
the charter
provision
quoted by
Marika
indicates. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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Metalitz </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Marika
Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
October 05,
2016 12:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Volker
Greimann;
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Volker, please
note that the
PDP WG Charter
(see<span
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/x/E4xlAw"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#954F72">https://community.icann.org/x/E4xlAw</span></a>)
includes the
following
question:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><i>As<span
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style="letter-spacing:.05pt"> </span></span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">its</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Phase</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">deliberations,</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">PDP<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span>WG<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">should</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">work</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">to</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:.05pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">reach
consensus</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">recommendations
by</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">considering,</span><span
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style="letter-spacing:.05pt"> </span></span><b><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">at</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span>a<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">minimum</span></b><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">, the</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">following</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">complex</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span>and<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">inter-related
questions:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i><span
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<span
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class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><i><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Data Accuracy:</span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></i></b><i>What<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">steps</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">should
be</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></span>taken<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.15pt"> </span></span>to<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt"> </span></span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">improve</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">data</span><span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">accuracy?</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i>(……)</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 05/10/16
05:58, "<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20Volker%20Greimann"
target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org
on behalf of
Volker
Greimann</span></a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org
on behalf of
vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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I would
move to strike
all references
to data
quality
altogether
from<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
this
document, e.g.
"current",
"accurate"
etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
These are
already
required by
existing
policies and
agreements and
do<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
not have
to be
referenced
again at this
point. We
should focus
on having<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
to reflect
the data as
provided by
the RNH at
this stage,
not make any<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
presumptions about its quality.<o:p></o:p></p>
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class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
After all,
data will be
presented "as
is" in this
system, with
no<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
presumption of any prior cleanup work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p
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Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
class="m-2640664371089058745m-3041100436472200702m-8681382493968748554apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
THE purpose of
the
"Registration
Data Service"
(hereafter
referred to<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
as<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
"RDS") is to
manage
authorised
parties'
access to
information
about<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
[gTLD Domain
Names, gTLD
Nameservers,
gTLD
Registries and
gTLD<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
Registrars]<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
Purpose 3(a/b)
are possible
use cases, not
Purposes as
such<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>>
"Accurate" is
definitely not
a term to use
if we ever
expect to
finish<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>> -
"Current"
would be more
accurate (sic)
/ appropriate.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>
Agreed, with
one minor
suggestion:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
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><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
>
"access to
information
about generic
top-level
domain
registries,
registrars,
names, and
name servers."<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white">
><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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> Scott<o:p></o:p></p>
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>
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
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>
gnso-rds-pdp-wg
mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
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><span
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target="_blank"><span
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><span
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<span
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--<span
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Bei
weiteren
Fragen stehen
wir Ihnen
gerne zur
Verfügung.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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Mit
freundlichen
Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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Volker A.
Greimann<o:p></o:p></p>
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-
Rechtsabteilung
-<o:p></o:p></p>
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66386 St.
Ingbert<o:p></o:p></p>
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Tel.: <a
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Email:<span
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></p>
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Umsatzsteuer
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Member of
the KEYDRIVE
GROUP<o:p></o:p></p>
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