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<p>I still do not agree: A phone n umber may be technically
incorrect but still functional.</p>
<p>Consider these examples:<br>
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<p>0049-1234-56789<br>
+49-123456789<br>
+49.0123456789<br>
0049(0)123456789<br>
</p>
<p>and variations thereof.</p>
<p>All of these numbers will be readily usabla for anyone with half
a brain cell, yet each and every one of these numbers is
inaccurate under wcurrent whois policies.<br>
For reference, this would be the "correct" number:</p>
<p>+49.123456789<br>
</p>
<p>So what does this tell us? It tells me that on the march to
accuracy, we will create more issues than we will solve.</p>
<p>I have seen mail delivered to horribly spelled addresses, yet
otoh, I have also seen time and again that mail sent to perfectly
correct addresses was not delivered, because the postman could not
find it (for example because the entrance to a building in one
street actually was located around the corner in another street)
and the mail was returned undelivered.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.10.2016 um 19:09 schrieb Richard
Leaning:<br>
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<div>Michele,</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I don't disagree with you. There will
always be scenarios where common sense prevails.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">But if you want to phone me you will
need the accurate number - not something that looks like my
number.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">If you want to respond to me about
these comments, you will need the accurate email address not
something that is sort of my email address. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">All am saying is we should strive for
accuracy knowing that we may not achieve it but at least let's
try. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Dick <br>
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Richard Leaning
<div>RIPE NCC</div>
<div>External Relations</div>
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On 9 Oct 2016, at 13:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Dick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Sorry, but that’s absolutely untrue. So I
agree with Greg.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I have been getting postal mail for more
than 30 years and over that period my name, my gender
and my address have been listed inaccurately hundreds of
times.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Yet the postal services in the various
countries that I’ve lived in have been able to get the
mail to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">There is a very big difference between
“functional” and “accurate”.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">As others have pointed out, it’s often
impossible to provide 100% accurate addresses on web
forms etc., Try updating your ESTA for a visit to the US
and you’ll find 9 times out of 10 that the address form
doesn’t allow enough space for the hotel name and
address. But if you provide the hotel name the
authorities will know exactly where you are without the
full address.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Our office address, for example, lists us
as being in Carlow. If you actually looked at a map
you’d see that we aren’t in Carlow, but in Laois.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">--</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Mr Michele Neylon</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Blacknight Solutions</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
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lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">http://blacknight.blog/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ceo.hosting/"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">http://ceo.hosting/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">-------------------------------</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit
12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"
lang="EN-US">Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Richard Leaning <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net">rleaning@ripe.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 7 October 2016 at 19:20<br>
<b>To: </b>Greg Shatan <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review
- updated RDS Statement of Purpose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thats Greg for articulating it so well.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">all i was going to say was - <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">'You can’t contact someone if the
contact information is inaccurate’<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So i can’t see how you can split the
two.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Richard Leaning<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">External Relations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RIPE NCC<o:p></o:p></p>
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