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<p>In all honesty, I do not believe this attack showcases an issue
with the DNS industry assembled within ICANN. This shows a much
bigger problem with the manufacturers of IoT gear that is too easy
to get into. The devices must be made secure to prevent "bad
actors" from gaining access and weaponizing them. As long as
babyphones and electric feetwarmers can be hacked from remote,
they will be and nothing we as the DNS industry do will stop that.<br>
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Best,<br>
Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.10.2016 um 17:22 schrieb nathalie
coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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offer my sympathy to Dyn for this new DDos attack. I
hope the industry will wake up and start collaborating
to make it tougher for criminals to destroy the trust
that we still have in the Internet before it is too
late. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yiv0578233711yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477317707156_64758">Nobody
seems to be willing to work cross-stakeholder groups to
build tougher defenses. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yiv0578233711yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477317707156_64758">End-users
are still the ones having to suffer most from these
attacks (i.e. latest attacks on banking cards in
India). </div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yiv0578233711yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477317707156_64758">The
Internet is not only the turf of fiercely independent
software developers/computer geeks. The philosophy of
the Internet is a legacy of these people's mentality and
personality. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yiv0578233711yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477317707156_64758">But
the Internet is also the place where Joe the Plumber
does his shopping. Let the sun shine through and make
another pact that could change how the Internet is
perceived. The Internet worked because it was the
private sector acting as a cooperative. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yiv0578233711yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477317707156_64758">Geeks
should not take the lead in defining everyone's
experience and exposure to risk. Let's make the Internet
a communal place and protect the common interest by
infusing a different philosophy to it. </div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yiv0578233711yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477317707156_64758">How
about more BP Groups, WGs with
manufacturers/end-users/Tech teams to raise the bar on
security? </div>
<div dir="ltr"
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hope everybody is as fed up with these breaches as I am;
enough anyway to change things and acknowledge the fact
that Internet belongs to all of us.</div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">I don’t think that
WG has any direct role of preventing such
attacks but it is possible that some of the
possible requirements we consider could have
indirect impacts. I believe we will need to
consider whether and how an RDS could be
used to facilitate attacks.</span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Farell Folly<br
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<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] [Just
for Info] DDoS Attacks against Dyn -
Schneier on Security</span></div>
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<div>Dear All,</div>
<div>I would like to share this with you. It
will question one more time how the
Internet ecosystem will handle this IoT era
and what role we can (this WG) play to
ensure that the best measures /
funtionalities /requirement are in place to
prevent or reduce such attacks on the DNS
infrastructure. Good reading.</div>
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