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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Below please find notes from our F2F WG meeting, along with links to meeting materials. Deliberations will continue in our next WG meeting (Tuesday, 22 November 2016); additional materials for that meeting will be distributed in advance of that call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best, Lisa<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>RDS PDP WG F2F Meeting - 3 November 2016<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/NAe4Aw" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://community.icann.org/x/NAe4Aw</span></a></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1) Introduction & SOI Updates<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Roll call will be taken from AC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Please remember to update your SOI<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2) Accomplishments and Status<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>What have we accomplished so far?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>See <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/ICANN57-RDS-PDP-WG-Slides-Draft8.pptx">slides presented during the meeting</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>3) Next steps & Working Session<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>See <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/ICANN57-RDS-PDP-WG-Slides-Draft8.pptx">slides presented during the meeting</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Commence deliberations on possible requirements during today's meeting, focusing on first three areas (privacy, users and purposes, data elements)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Start discussions today, using a randomized iterative approach:<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Sort possible requirements for phase 1 requirements only.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Randomly order the three questions: Users/Purposes, Data Elements & Privacy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>For the first round, start with the first randomly selected question, followed by the second, and then the third, discussing a subset of possible requirements, using the Prerequisites/Dependencies, Codes, and Keywords to select subsets for deliberation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>For the next round, rotate the order of questions so that the second becomes the first, the third becomes second, and the first becomes third, iterating on step 3.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Approach to reach consensus in phase 1<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>See meeting materials: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/RDS%20PDP%20WG%20Approach%20for%20Consensus%20-%2027%20October%202016.docx">Approach to reach consensus during Phase 1</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Start by deriving rough informal consensus on policy requirements after deliberation on first 3 questions as well as GA, DA and Other Questions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Following this deliberation, the foundational question is expected to be answered: Is a new RDS policy framework needed or can the current WHOIS policy framework be adjusted to meet requirements?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>This initial answer and rationale to be published in the first Initial Report for public comment. WG to review all input received and then review other questions in the charter which will lead to a second Initial Report that will be published for public comment. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Only at this stage will formal consensus be sought using process defined in Section IV of Charter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Consensus recommendations and statements will be published in the Final Report for Phase 1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>After considering this WG’s recommendations in the Final Report for Phase 1, GNSO Council will decide on next steps, which depend on the answer to the foundational question. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>For today's meeting:<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Cover the first subset of Phase 1 Code=A possible requirements without dependencies in this randomly selected order: users and purposes; data elements; privacy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Iterative process - no final decisions during today's meeting. Just a starting point to move forward from and build informal consensus, hopefully leading to formal consensus at the end of Phase 1. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Subset of possible requirements for discussion were circulated prior to today's meeting:<br><span style='color:#333333'><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/PRSpreadsheets-D5-CodeAOnly-NoDependencies.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1477710647000&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>PRSpreadsheets-D5-CodeAOnly-NoDependencies [PDF]</span></a> and<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/PRSpreadsheets-D5-CodeAOnly-NoDependencies.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1477710695000&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>[XLS]</span></a></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Depending on progress today, determination will be made on what will get covered during the upcoming meetings, rotating the order of deliberation on the first three charter questions. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Initial Deliberations<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Initial Subset for Deliberation: <span style='color:#333333'><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/PRSpreadsheets-D5-CodeAOnly-NoDependencies.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1477710647000&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>PRSpreadsheets-D5-CodeAOnly-NoDependencies [PDF]</span></a> and<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/PRSpreadsheets-D5-CodeAOnly-NoDependencies.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1477710695000&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>[XLS]</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#333333'>Displayed List of PRs without Dependencies: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/Initial-Deliberation-List-v2.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1478231277181&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>Initial-Deliberation-List [PDF]</span></a> and <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/Initial-Deliberation-List-v2.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1478231349204&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>[DOC]</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>UP-D01-R01:</u> <br>“In support of ICANN’s mission to coordinate the global Internet’s system of unique identifiers, and to ensure the stable and secure operation of the Internet’s unique identifier system, information about gTLD domain names is necessary to promote trust and confidence in the Internet for all stakeholders.” (p. 16, Section IIb, Purpose)<u><o:p></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf">EWG Final Report</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Three possible requirements within this PR: support the stable and secure operations, support the unique identifier system, and to promote trust and confidence in the system<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>The RDS system as updated should promote consumer trust and confidence in the Internet.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Information is necessary for those registering domain names, but is it necessary to promote trust and confidence? Some agree, some disagree whether information promotes trust and confidence<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>What information is necessary? To be examined as we move forward iteratively<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Need to be clear about the purpose of any recommendation - in this case this PR is a general requirement - foundational and high level - not specific<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Define "stakeholders" or drop phrase "all stakeholders"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>This PR is great as an aspirational statement but is too subject to interpretation, would prefer to label as a goal or aspiration. A purpose has to be specific, limited, and proportionate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>An option is to incorporate this PR within the statement of purpose rather than capture it as a requirement<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <u>UP-D01-R02:</u><br>“gTLD registration data [must be] collected, validated and disclosed for permissible purposes only.” (p. 21, p. 31 Principle 6)<u><o:p></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf">EWG Final Report</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Key phrase is "for permissible purposes only"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Collection and disclosure or permissible purposes only is fine, but you don't validate for a purpose - must be accurate enough for a given purpose<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Information disclosed should be validated - disclosing false information defeats the purpose<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>"For permissible purposes" applies to all three or just disclosure<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Noted that registrars collect additional information that may not be for a permissible purpose, but that is not part of the RDS policy being defined here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Does validation for a particular purpose occur only when data is requested, or when it is collected? (the latter)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Do possible requirements fall into different categories? General principles vs specific purposes. For example, data processing standards depend on specific purposes (not general principles)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Removing validation from this PR does not mean validation is not important but it may be covered elsewhere (for example, in PRs for accuracy)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>“gTLD registration data must be collected for permissible purposes only”; (2) gTLD registration data must be validated; (3) gTLD registration data must disclosed for permissible purposes only. Of course, each of these could be supplemented with additional more detailed but still granular requirements (such as about what types or level of validation should be applied)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>I think (1) would mean that the purposes for collection of the data would be presented to the registrant (and permission would be gained) prior to collection Permissible purpose for collection not necessarily the same as permissible purpose for disclosure<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Is it possible to register a domain name which is missing data required for a permissible purpose?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>DE-D01-R01:<br></u>The [gTLD registration directory service] must accommodate purpose-driven disclosure of data elements.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf">EWG Final Report</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Like this requirement (DE-D01-R01) because it is worded simply and to my mind doesn’t result in multiple, diverging interpretations<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Disclosure does not necessarily refer to public data - needs to be precise about which data is public (e.g., DNS Name Servers) and which data is disclosed for a specific purpose (e.g., contact data)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>If there are too many purposes, does that make all data accessible? Purposes need to be specific, and access for a given purpose must be controlled.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>don't read this requirement as implicitly allowing all purposes to be valid. so the presumption that many purposes== many accesses may be misplaced<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>"Purpose-driven disclosure" must be defined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>The system has to allow disclosure to [law enforcement or another requestor] for a specific purpose/specific purposes, yet to be defined.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>DE-D01-R22:<br></u>Validators, Registries and Registrars may collect, store, or disclose additional data elements for internal use that is never shared with the [gTLD registration directory service].<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf">EWG Final Report</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Registrars clearly collect data not shared with the RDS but that is necessary for its business (e.g., credit card data)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Need to clearly differentiate between ICANN-mandated data that must be collected (via RAA) and customer relationship data (which is not the subject of the RAA) - both in accordance with local law<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>"should collect" as one piece, "should display" as another piece<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>what is collected beyond [the RIA and RAA requirements] are not ICANN's business<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>What about registry-specific data? (e.g., proof provided to registrars for certain gTLDs)? Would this be relayed from registrar to registry even if not disclosed through the RDS? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Don't need to explicitly state that some data is outside the scope if the default position is that only data specifically required is within scope (rewrite this negative requirement as a positive principle?)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>DE-D12-R02:<br></u>The [gTLD registration directory service] should collect and display uniform sets of data regardless of the registry involved. (sec. 5.2)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf"><span style='background:white'>GNSO PDP on Thick WHOIS Final Report</span></a><span style='color:#333333;background:white'> (2013)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Uniformity requirement in Thick Whois has been commented on by DP commissioners - "uniformity" is a dangerous word because it can imply uniform disclosure - consistent labeling and display is narrower<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Further clarification may be needed on Thick WhoIs before determining this<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Must be some carve outs for differences between registries<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Consistent labeling and display - this is the intent of "uniform" in this PR, but there may be a need to display different data (in addition to consistent display of common data) that is not precluded<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Uniformity is important for interoperability, but it is not necessarily more important than having the right data for the right purpose(s)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>DE-D19-R01:<br></u>Based on the ICANN Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) proposed principles, gTLD [registration directory] services "should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants (…)" (para 3.3)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="http://whois.icann.org/en/link/gac-principles-regarding-gtld-whois-services">GAC Principles regarding gTLD WHOIS Services</a> (28 March 2007)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>This requirement (d19-01) needs more precision. left as is it actually concerns me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Seems more like a principle than a requirement<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>This statement wasn't drafted with this purpose in mind and is too vague<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Phase 1 may define requirements on policy that are guiding principles, to be supported through policies to be defined in detail during Phase 2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>PR-D30-R05:<br></u>The requirement for a third country to ensure an adequate level of data protection was further defined by the CJEU in Schrems…It also indicated that the wording ‘adequate level of protection’ must be understood as “requiring the third country in fact to ensure, by reason of its domestic law or its international commitments, a level of protection of fundamental rights and freedoms that is essentially equivalent to that guaranteed within the European Union by virtue of the Directive read in the light of the Charter” pg.10 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Source: <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2016/wp238_en.pdf"><span style='background:white;mso-fareast-language:AR-SA'>Opinion 01/2016 on the EU-U.S. Privacy Shield draft adequacy decision of the Article 29 WP 238</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>What does third country mean in this context? Applies to forward transfer of data from country which the data was collected or the subject of the data<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>It is almost impossible to transfer data while guaranteeing constitutional protections without treaty - becomes more aspirational<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Should requirement be higher level statement such as RDS policy should allow contracted parties to comply with applicable law?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Should requirement state the implicit requirement that the RDS should provide adequate data protection?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>4) Action items & Next meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Action:</b> Staff to distribute notes from today’s meeting for further use in drafting WG recommendations. All WG members to review these materials to prepare for deliberation in our next meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Next meeting date:</b> Tuesday, 22 November 2016 at 17:00 UTC<b><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;background:white'><b><span style='color:#333333'>Meeting Materials:</span></b><span style='color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#333333'>RDS PDP WG Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/rjJ-Ag"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>https://community.icann.org/x/rjJ-Ag</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#333333'>WG Email Archive: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg/"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#333333'>Phase 1 Documents: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/p4xlAw"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>https://community.icann.org/x/p4xlAw</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#333333'><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/62392116/RDS%20PDP%20WG%20Approach%20for%20Consensus%20-%2027%20October%202016.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1477710631000&api=v2"><span style='color:#3B73AF'>Approach to reach consensus during Phase 1</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal 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