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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s meeting. If you were not able to attend and/or speak during the meeting, please make sure to share your comments with the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Notes RDS PDP WG 10/1/2017:
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are
provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: </span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/C4xlAw"><i>https://community.icann.org/x/C4xlAw</i></a><i>.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1. Roll call / SOI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attendance will be taken from Adobe Connect<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please remember to state your name for transcription purposes and do not forget to mute your line when not speaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please remember to update your SOI, if/when needed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Request to add RDS review to AOB in view of letter that has been sent by GNSO to not limit scope. Concern about impact on resources and potential duplication. Note that GNSO Council proposes just
a slight broadening and is not intended to overtake the work of this PDP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action item #1</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: GNSO Council members encouraged to take concerns back to the GNSO Council concerning broadening the scope of the RDS Review.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action item #2:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> WG members to encourage respective groups to provide input on this topic to staff/ICANN Board.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Review poll results: FinalResults-Poll-on-Purpose-from-21DecCall.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> a. Review of conclusions & comments/clarifications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">See summary report shared on mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Starting with thin data is just as a starting point, thick data will follow later. Is there any harm done by starting with narrow focus? None identified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Is there no illegitimate use of RDS information? Of course, it may differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Comment 10 suggests that there is public data, but that is still a topic that is open for discussion. Need to separate display from collecting. Is a separate decision point whether something that
is collected needs to be displayed. Q1 in the poll noted that this statement is NOT intended to imply authentication, disclosure, or access control for thin data - all topics to be deliberated upon later. Some data may be inherently public as they are available
through other sources. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Q1. The WG should continue deliberation on the purpose(s) of "thin data." (88%)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #1</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: The WG should continue deliberation on the purpose(s) of "thin data."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Q2. Every "thin data" element should have at least one legitimate purpose. (88%)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Having identified legitimate purposes will not tie the WG's hands on policy which will be discussed in phase 2 such as display, access, etc. Just because a purpose is legitimate does not automatically
imply public access. WG will deliberate at a later stage on access and/or public display.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #2</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Every "thin data" element should have at least one legitimate purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Q3. Every existing "thin data" element does have at least one legitimate purpose for collection. (88% *)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Who collects is also part of a later discussion. Don't get hung up on term 'collection' at this stage.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Scope of PDP is RDS policy in its entirety. Not be limited to how things are done today, these may change as a result of this PDP.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Distinguish between data that is collected at the request of ICANN (as a result of policy and/or contractual requirements) and data that is collected by a registrar to run its business. The latter
is out of scope for this effort. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #3</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Every existing "thin data" element does have at least one legitimate purpose for collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">4. EWG-identified purposes apply to at least one "thin data" element. (91%)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">See handout in which additional purposes have been added based on the comments that were submitted.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #4</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: EWG-identified purposes apply to at least one "thin data" element.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> b. Add results to "Key Concepts Deliberation Working Draft" Section 2.1.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Results from this poll will be added to key concepts deliberation workiing draft to keep record of conclusions that are being reached (see above WG agreements).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action item #3</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Staff to add WG agreements discussed during today's meeting to key concepts deliberation working draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3. Continue deliberation with Users/Purposes Charter Question 2.2 for thin data only, starting with collection only:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> 2.2.1 For what specific (legitimate?) purposes should gTLD registration thin data elements be collected?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo5"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">See handout: 10JanMeeting-PurposesForThinData-Handout-v2.pdf. Note that use cases listed are those developed by the RDS PDP WG.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Domain name control as a possible purpose: are name servers needed for this purpose? It is necessary for something, but maybe not domain name control.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed WG Agreement #1</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> (to be confirmed via poll): Domain name control is a legitimate purpose for thin data collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Technical Issue Resolution as a possible purpose: status and expiration may also be relevant. Same set as elements for control may also be needed for resolution. May be difficult to decide which
related data elements for this item. There will be an opportunity to update these elements down the road and/or combining some of the purposes if deemed appropriate.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Any elements in domain name control that shouldn't be included in technical issue resolution? No, duplicate elements for technicol resolution. Consider combining them? Might be helpful to keep them
separate to be able to corrolate with EWG work (who did keep the two separate). <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed WG Agreement #2</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> (to be confirmed via poll): Technical Issue Resolution is a legitimate purpose for thin data collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Domain Name Certification as a possible purpose: should it be considered not a valid purpose of data - it is not ICANN's responsibility to support this industry as there are many other means to perform
this action? Isn't that an argument for almost any use? Yes, would be appropriate to ask those questions as it is a clean slate approach. Are certificates and DNS-based validation of them required for secure, stable operation of the Internet? If only data
elements needed are domain name and name servers, which are publicly available, it may not be needed.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">To move forward WG will need a draft statement that we can survey for support for each "purpose" – aim to structure next poll accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">4. Confirm action items and proposed decision points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action item #1</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: GNSO Council members encouraged to take concerns back to the GNSO Council concerning broadening the scope of the RDS Review.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action item #2</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: WG members to encourage respective groups to provide input on this topic to staff/ICANN Board.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Action item #3</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Leadership team to discuss what poll data is made publicly available. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #1:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> The WG should continue deliberation on the purpose(s) of "thin data."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #2</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Every "thin data" element should have at least one legitimate purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #3</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Every existing "thin data" element does have at least one legitimate purpose for collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG Agreement #4</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: EWG-identified purposes apply to at least one "thin data" element.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed WG Agreement #1</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> (to be confirmed via poll): Domain name control is a legitimate purpose for thin data collection.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed WG Agreement #2</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> (to be confirmed via poll): Technical Issue Resolution is a legitimate purpose for thin data collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">5. Confirm next meeting date: Wednesday 18 January 2017 at 06.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Email: <a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">
<span style="color:#0563C1">marika.konings@icann.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Find out more about the GNSO by taking our <a href="http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso"><span style="color:#0563C1">interactive courses</span></a> and visiting the <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers"><span style="color:#0563C1">GNSO
Newcomer pages</span></a>. <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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