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    <p>Correct. <br>
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    <p>Perhaps the folks on this list want to observe how Eurid treats
      Thick WHOIS data as Greg mentioned. <br>
    </p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://whois.eurid.eu/en/?domain=vwl.eu">https://whois.eurid.eu/en/?domain=vwl.eu</a></p>
    <p>That is one of my domain names. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Best regards, <br>
    </p>
    <p>Theo <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22-1-2017 22:16, Greg Aaron wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            name="_MailEndCompose">Shane, you said that “with regards to
            ‘thin data’ is that we need *some* purpose for both
            gathering and publishing the information, because otherwise
            privacy laws may prohibit companies from gathering or
            publishing it.”<o:p></o:p></a></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose">You
            may be making an erroneous assumption.  AFAIK, thin data is
            not protected by privacy laws.  Generally, privacy laws are
            designed to protect personally identifiable information, and
            not all types of information.  Privacy laws allow the _<i>collection</i>_
            personal information for legitimate purposes.   Privacy laws
            are not designed to prohibit the _<i>publication</i>_ of
            non-personally-identifiable information. 
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose">This
            is why ccTLDs in countries with strong privacy laws (such as
            in the EU) DO collect and publish thin data in their WHOIS
            systems  They do it because it’s allowed, and because there
            are legitimate reasons to collect AND publish it.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose">And
            sometimes they publish thick data.  For example you will see
            registrant and contact information below.  That’s published
            because companies are not individuals.   <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose">All
            best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose">--Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Domain
              name:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              virgin.co.uk<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Registrant:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Virgin Enterprises Limited<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Registrant type:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Unknown<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Registrant's address:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              The Battleship Building<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              179 Harrow Road<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              London<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              EN<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              W2 6NB<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              United Kingdom<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Data validation:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and
              address against a 3rd party data source on 21-Apr-2015<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Registrar:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Corporation Service Company (UK) Limited [Tag =
              CSC-CORP-DOMAINS]<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              URL: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cscprotectsbrands.com">http://www.cscprotectsbrands.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Relevant dates:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Registered on: before Aug-1996<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Expiry date:  07-Nov-2017<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Last updated:  03-Nov-2015<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Registration status:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              Registered until expiry date.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Name servers:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              a4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              f4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              g4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              h4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              j4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              k4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">       
              l4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Domain
              name:           virgin.ca<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Domain
              status:         registered<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Creation
              date:         2001/01/31<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Expiry
              date:           2017/03/10<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Updated
              date:          2015/02/02<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">DNSSEC:               
              Unsigned<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Registrar:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Name:              CSC Corporate Domains (Canada) Company<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Number:            2397937<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Registrant:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Name:              Virgin Enterprises Limited TMA 383374<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Administrative
              contact:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Name:              Ms Victoria Carrington<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Postal address:    112 Kent Street, Suite 2001
              <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">                       Ottawa
              ON K1P 5P2 Canada<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Phone:             1 613 2325300<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Fax:               1 613 5639231<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Email:             <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@shapirocohen.com">email@shapirocohen.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Technical
              contact:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Name:              Russell Berman<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Postal address:    The School House<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">                      
              50 Brook Green<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">                      
              London EN W6 7RR United Kingdom<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Phone:             +44.2073132000<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Fax:               +44.2031263608<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              Email:             <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@virgin.com">email@virgin.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Name
              servers:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              a4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              f4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              g4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              h4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              j4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              k4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">   
              l4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">domain:     
              virgin.fr<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">status:     
              ACTIVE<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">hold:       
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">holder-c:   
              VEL21-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">admin-c:    
              RD2263-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">tech-c:     
              DA4698-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">zone-c:     
              NFC1-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nsl-id:     
              NSL17525-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">registrar:  
              CSC CORPORATE DOMAINS INC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Expiry
              Date: 11/12/2017<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">created:    
              28/06/1995<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">last-update:
              07/12/2016<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">source:     
              FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">ns-list:    
              NSL17525-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              a4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              f4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              g4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              h4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              j4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              k4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nserver:    
              l4.nstld.com<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">source:     
              FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">registrar:  
              CSC CORPORATE DOMAINS INC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">type:       
              Isp Option 1<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              2711 Centerville Road, Suite 400<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              DE 19808 WILMINGTON<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">country:    
              US<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">phone:      
              +1 302 636 5401<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">fax-no:     
              +1 302 636 5454<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">e-mail:     
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@cscinfo.com">email@cscinfo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">website:    
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.csccorporatedomains.com">http://www.csccorporatedomains.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">anonymous:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">registered: 
              17/10/2006<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">source:     
              FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nic-hdl:    
              VEL21-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">type:       
              ORGANIZATION<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">contact:    
              Virgin Enterprises Ltd.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              120 Campden Hill Road<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              W6 7RR London<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">country:    
              GB<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">phone:      
              +44 2073132000<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">fax-no:     
              +44 2031263610<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">e-mail:     
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@virgin.com">email@virgin.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">registrar:  
              CSC CORPORATE DOMAINS INC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">changed:    
              03/10/2012 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@nic.fr">email@nic.fr</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">anonymous:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">obsoleted:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">eligstatus: 
              ok<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">eligsource: 
              REGISTRAR<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">eligdate:   
              03/10/2012 21:10:50<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">source:     
              FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nic-hdl:    
              RD2263-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">type:       
              PERSON<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">contact:    
              Rebecca Delorey<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              Partner/Avocat associe<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              Gilbey Delorey 69 rue de Richelieu<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              75002 Paris<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">country:    
              FR<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">phone:  
                  +33 1 56 02 62 00<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">fax-no:     
              +33 1 56 02 62 10<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">e-mail:     
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@gilbeydehaas.com">email@gilbeydehaas.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">registrar:  
              CSC CORPORATE DOMAINS INC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">changed:    
              08/09/2010 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@nic.fr">email@nic.fr</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">anonymous:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">obsoleted:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">source:     
              FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">nic-hdl:    
              DA4698-FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">type:       
              PERSON<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">contact:    
              Domain Administrator<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              Virgin Enterprises Ltd.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              The School House<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              50 Brook Green<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">address:    
              W6 7RR London EN<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">country:    
              GB<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">phone:      
              +44 2073132000<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">fax-no:     
              +44 2031263608<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">e-mail:     
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@virgin.com">email@virgin.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">registrar:  
              CSC CORPORATE DOMAINS INC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">changed:    
              26/09/2011 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@nic.fr">email@nic.fr</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">anonymous:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">obsoleted:  
              NO<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">source:     
              FRNIC<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@kataplonk.de">email@kataplonk.de</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Changed:
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">iThreat
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">mobile:
              +1.215.858.2257<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
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            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:33 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Shane Kerr <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shane@time-travellers.org">&lt;shane@time-travellers.org&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> RDS PDP WG <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">&lt;gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Now open: 18
            January Poll on Purpose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Shane,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">First,
                I would say that all legitimate purposes need to be
                catered for, so I don't think we can agree there. :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Second,
                I think the garbage can top analogy illustrates the
                difference between purpose and use.  It is not a
                legitimate purpose of a garbage can top to be used as a
                sled, even if it is a potential use.  (I don't think we
                can say that it is a legitimate use either, but
                hopefully we don't have to parse that issue, at least
                not yet.  In college, we used to sled down the hill in
                the middle of campus on cafeteria trays (from the
                cafeteria conveniently located near the top of the
                hill.  This was definitely not a legitimate purpose of
                those sleds.  We students may have thought this was a
                legitimate use of the trays, but I doubt this view was
                shared by cafeteria staff or university administration. 
                Or maybe we thought it was an illegitimate use, which
                made it more exciting (it's been a while...).)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">I
                share your view that the need for the information is
                indisputable -- so we can agree there.  :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Nonetheless,
                I think there are good reasons that it is important to
                identify the legitimate purposes of the data is
                collected, and to accommodate those purposes.  Indeed,
                this is one of the essential purposes of this Working
                Group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:03 AM, Shane
              Kerr &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:shane@time-travellers.org" target="_blank">shane@time-travellers.org</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Greg,<br>
                <br>
                If we can say that not all legitimate purposes have to
                be catered for,<br>
                then I agree with you. :)<br>
                <br>
                If we say that tracking down the registrar of a domain
                as part of<br>
                trademark research is a legitimate purpose, that does
                not mean that we<br>
                have to design the system for this purpose, right?<br>
                <br>
                To try an analogy: We can recognize that using the
                plastic top of a<br>
                garbage can as a sled is legitimate, but we don't insist
                on designing<br>
                lids with sledding in mind.<br>
                <br>
                Full disclosure: My own take on the "legitimate purpose"
                discussion<br>
                with regards to "thin data" is that we need *some*
                purpose for both<br>
                gathering and publishing the information, because
                otherwise privacy<br>
                laws may prohibit companies from gathering or publishing
                it. Luckily I<br>
                think that there are so many such purposes that the need
                for the<br>
                information is indisputable.<br>
                <br>
                Jumping ahead... as I said in a prior call (sorry for
                missing ones since<br>
                then), I would prefer that the information is then
                allowed for any<br>
                purpose, without restriction, because otherwise you have
                to have not<br>
                only tiresome rules about what is allowed but also the
                Internet Police<br>
                to enforce those rules, which seems like a step towards
                Armageddon.<br>
                <br>
                Given that we're still talking about "thin data", which
                is basically<br>
                just a pointer to a registrar who has *actual* data, my
                own<br>
                recommendation is not to stress too much. This stuff is
                only very, very<br>
                vaguely personally identifiable.<br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                <br>
                --<br>
                Shane<br>
                <br>
                At 2017-01-21 14:51:29 -0500<br>
                Greg Shatan &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
                <br>
                &gt; I have to disagree.  These are legitimate purposes
                for collection, as well<br>
                &gt; as for disclosure.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Greg<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Stephanie Perrin
                &lt;<br>
                &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; I filled it out, but I am afraid for most of
                the purposes I could not<br>
                &gt; &gt; agree.  We do not *collect *data for many of
                those purposes.  We disclose<br>
                &gt; &gt; it to people for those purposes, but the
                purpose of collecting those data<br>
                &gt; &gt; elements is not for tax collection, trademark
                enforcement actions, etc.<br>
                &gt; &gt; This is the conflation issue I have raised
                repeatedly.<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; Apologies if I did not make that point clear
                enough on the call.<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; Stephanie Perrin<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; On 2017-01-20 17:35, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; Please note that our current poll ends in
                about 24 hours.  So far only 16<br>
                &gt; &gt; people have responded.<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; Chuck<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; *From:* <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-</a><br>
                &gt; &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:bounces@icann.org">bounces@icann.org</a>
                &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;]
                *On Behalf Of *Lisa<br>
                &gt; &gt; Phifer<br>
                &gt; &gt; *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:50 PM<br>
                &gt; &gt; *To:* RDS PDP WG &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;
                &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now
                open: 18 January Poll on<br>
                &gt; &gt; Purpose<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; Dear all,<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; As directed in the 18 January WG call, this
                week's new Poll on Purpose is<br>
                &gt; &gt; now open for WG member participation:<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SZX9QJZ"
                  target="_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SZX9QJZ</a><br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; A PDF of this poll's questions and
                notes/recordings of the meeting are<br>
                &gt; &gt; posted on the 18 January meeting page: <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://community.icann.org/x/" target="_blank">
                  https://community.icann.org/x/</a><br>
                &gt; &gt; EbTDAw<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; This poll will close at *COB Saturday 21
                January 2017*.<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; All WG members are encouraged to participate
                in this poll to help advance<br>
                &gt; &gt; deliberation and prepare for next week's
                meeting.<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt; Best regards,<br>
                &gt; &gt; Lisa<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;<br>
                &gt; &gt;
                _______________________________________________<br>
                &gt; &gt; gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listgnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.orghttps://">listgnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.orghttps://</a><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
                  target="_blank">mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">&gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &gt;
                    _______________________________________________<br>
                    &gt; &gt; gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br>
                    &gt; &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                    &gt; &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
                      target="_blank">
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><br>
                    &gt; &gt;<o:p></o:p></p>
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