<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I very much agree with this comment from Stephanie, as did a number of other people on the most recent call. This issue - of the difference between collection and disclosure as regards purpose - is significant and needs discussion in further detail. Though it may seem not that significant when we are only talking about ‘thin’ data that is likely going to be collected anyway, it becomes a much more significant difference when we broaden the range of data elements. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 Jan 2017, at 8:02 am, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">I filled it out, but I am afraid for most of the purposes I could not agree. We do not<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">collect<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>data for many of those purposes. We disclose it to people for those purposes, but the purpose of collecting those data elements is not for tax collection, trademark enforcement actions, etc. This is the conflation issue I have raised repeatedly.</font></font></p><p style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">Apologies if I did not make that point clear enough on the call.</font></font></p><p style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br class=""></p><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 2017-01-20 17:35, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:6DCFB66DEEF3CF4D98FA55BCC43F152E4B1338C2@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com" type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please note that our current poll ends in about 24 hours. So far only 16 people have responded.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Chuck<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="_MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></a></div><span class=""></span><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Lisa Phifer<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:50 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RDS PDP WG<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXTERNAL] [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Dear all,<br class=""><br class="">As directed in the 18 January WG call, this week's new Poll on Purpose is now open for WG member participation:<br class=""><br class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SZX9QJZ" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SZX9QJZ<br class=""><br class=""></a>A PDF of this poll's questions and notes/recordings of the meeting are posted on the 18 January meeting page:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/x/EbTDAw" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/EbTDAw<br class=""><br class=""></a>This poll will close at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">COB Saturday 21 January 2017</b>.<br class=""><br class="">All WG members are encouraged to participate in this poll to help advance deliberation and prepare for next week's meeting.<br class=""><br class="">Best regards,<br class="">Lisa<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre wrap="" class="">_______________________________________________
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