<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Ayden,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What more do you want to learn about the data?  How do you intend to use/process the data and how/where might you use the end results?  That might help ground the discussion a bit more.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I actually cannot
          believe we are having this debate.  We accept wholesale disclosure
          of personal data in the WHOIS, and the group of people
          assembled to discuss the matter as a working group and set
          policy are offended by airing their own views, and want
          anonymity??? Unbelievable.  <br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I support Ayden&#39;s
          comments, not because I don&#39;t trust anyone but as a matter of
          principle.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">However, this discussion
          has proven one thing we will not have to argue about in future,
          timestamps and IP address are personal information.  Time
          saved there Chuck!</font></font><br>
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    Cheers Stephanie<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-01-30 08:38, Michele Neylon -
      Blacknight wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Well
            yes, there is that too
          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mr
              Michele Neylon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
              Solutions<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Hosting,
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Intl.
              <a href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203072" value="+353599183072" target="_blank">+353 (0) 59  9183072</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Direct
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Social:
              <a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mneylon.social" target="_blank">http://mneylon.social</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Some
              thoughts: <a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank">http://ceo.hosting/</a>
              <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">------------------------------<wbr>-<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
              Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
              Park,Sleaty<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
            X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
            </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Sam
              Lanfranco <a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" target="_blank">&lt;sam@lanfranco.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Monday 30 January 2017 at 13:25<br>
              <b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">&lt;michele@blacknight.com&gt;</a>,
              Ayden Férdeline <a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">&lt;icann@ferdeline.com&gt;</a>, RDS PDP WG
              <a class="m_-4818474446464101193moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">&lt;gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed resolution
              for raw poll data<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I might add
          that without proper agreement by each individual, to
          disclosure of past data would put the WG in violation of the
          law in a number of jurisdictions.<br>
          Also, in a move to disclosure, each participant would have to
          expressly agree (consensus could not be binding on all).<br>
          Those who do not agree would probably have to not participate,
          since macro data and the majority of disclosed results would
          leave them identifiable.
          <br>
          <br>
          Sam L. <u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#660000">On 1/30/2017
              8:04 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000">Ayden</span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000">I
              have no issue with “raw” or “processed” data being shared
              BUT only for future polls where people know that the data
              is going to be shared in that manner.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000">Doing
              it retroactively is not a good idea and I would oppose it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000">Regards</span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000">Michele</span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#660000"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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