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<p>Michele is correct. <br>
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ccTLDs in the EU usually do not publish personal data in the
WHOIS, but they have to handle the complaints. And that simply
costs money. <br>
<br>
So regardless where we are going with RDS regarding thick or thin,
at some point, some party has to handle the complaints, and that
costs money, could be the Registry, could be the Registrar, could
be a third party privacy provider. <br>
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<p>Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8-2-2017 20:33, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Why?
It costs money to manage a privacy service and deal with
complaints, queries etc.,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Of
course if I could charge you €20 / year for a .com
registration I’d happily give you the privacy service for
free
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:registration-issues-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><registration-issues-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a>
on behalf of <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu">"cw@christopherwilkinson.eu"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu"><cw@christopherwilkinson.eu></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 8 February 2017 at 18:54<br>
<b>To: </b>Carlton Samuels
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<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:registration-issues-wg@icann.org">"registration-issues-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:registration-issues-wg@icann.org"><registration-issues-wg@icann.org></a>, RDS WG
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [registration-issues-wg] WHOIS
Privacy - Spicer Style<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whois privacy should be the default. Not a
chargeable extra.
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<p class="MsoNormal">If best practice privacy was generalised,
I doubt that there would be such interest in proxy
services.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">CW<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 08 Feb 2017, at 19:41, Carlton
Samuels <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica">Um, well......grist
for the mill, I suppose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="http://domainnamewire.com/2017/02/08/sean-spicer-brings-attention-whois-privacy/">http://domainnamewire.com/2017/02/08/sean-spicer-brings-attention-whois-privacy/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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