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    <p>I am sorry you had that experience. Normally, if evidence is
      provided by the complainant that the whois is incorrect, most
      registrars will require that the registrant provides evidence that
      the updated data is correct, if only to avoid a follow-on
      complaint. If evidence suggests that the address is obviously and
      intentionally fake and the domain likely used in abuse, we may not
      even wait for the feedback of the customer before deactivating.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.02.2017 um 19:34 schrieb allison
      nixon:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7wKJjgTBHyL=hX-Y32uOYGJGm5Hg_HvXPZ67tvgD25TTLg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;&gt;[SAH] Actually, there *are* requirements to
        provide valid data and for registrars to perform validation
        processing:
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        <div>How do you expect toothless policy to work *on the
          Internet*? Seriously?</div>
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        </div>
        <div>worst that can happen when you put in fake whois data is
          that your domain gets reported, you change "123 fake st" to
          "124 fake st", and your registrar is satisfied because what
          more can they possibly do. I know this because I went through
          this with an old sinkhole domain. It's a total joke. Let's not
          pretend it's anything more than that.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:31 PM,
          Hollenbeck, Scott <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:shollenbeck@verisign.com" target="_blank">shollenbeck@verisign.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                            target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
                          [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                            target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>allison nixon<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 14, 2017 1:21
                          PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Volker Greimann &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                            target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;<span
                            class=""><br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> RDS PDP WG &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                              target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                          </span><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re:
                          [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois</span></p>
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                  <div><span class="">
                      <p class="MsoNormal">&gt;&gt;<span
                          style="font-size:9.5pt">to your first point:
                          the right to privacy of ones own data may be
                          different where I live and where you live.
                          Suffice it to say that in our day-to-day
                          business we get eough complaints from
                          customers who feel their rivacy has been
                          violated either by our putting their data out
                          for everyone to see or by customers of ours
                          who provide services that do the same. And we
                          both agree that whois privacy will not protect
                          you 100%.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">So put your contact
                            address as "123 fake st" and your phone
                            number as "555-555-5555". Make a fake email.
                            No one is forcing you to disclose more than
                            you want to. And the only people who
                            disclose too much are doing so by mistake,
                            not by coercion.</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">[SAH]
                          Actually, there *<b>are</b>* requirements to
                          provide valid data and for registrars to
                          perform validation processing:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#whois-accuracy"
                            target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>resources/pages/approved-with-<wbr>specs-2013-09-17-en#whois-<wbr>accuracy</a><span
                            class="HOEnZb"></span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Scott</span></p>
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        <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">_________________________________<br>
          Note to self: Pillage BEFORE burning.</div>
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