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<p>Hi Chris,<br>
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<div>4. If they are a "reseller centric/wholesale" registrar
(eNom, Tucows. Realtime, NEO), then WHOIS will often have a
"Registration service provided by" or "Reseller" in the whois
output, this gives you the registering party who took the
order, if not at the very least the registrar.</div>
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4) is not necessarily true due to reseller chains, which are
actually quite common. What the ultimate registrar puts in the whois
under the reseller field may be their reseller, but not the ultimate
reseller where the order was placed. <br>
Best,<br>
Volker<br>
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<div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Michele Neylon"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><michele@blacknight.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Volker Greimann"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, 20 February, 2017 11:24:53<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois<br>
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<br>
From our perspective the frustration is when the client
(registrant) has their details in whois and / or on the
website and the complainant makes zero attempt to contact
them. The first we hear about the alleged issues is when I get
a 100 page takedown notice on my desk.<br>
So if they can at least attempt to contact the website
operator then it makes our lives a lot easier. <br>
As the hosting provider we *should* have details of how to
reach the site owner, but not always, as we also offer
dedicated servers, colo etc., but we’ll know who the IPs are
assigned to<br>
<br>
Regards <br>
<br>
Michele<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Mr Michele Neylon<br>
Blacknight Solutions<br>
Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
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Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<br>
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<br>
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On 20/02/2017, 11:21, "Volker Greimann"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a> wrote:<br>
<br>
Agreed. The question is who is next if the details are not
available. If <br>
it is content, the next port of call should be the host as
the host has <br>
the ability to remove said content and also bears certain
legal <br>
obligations in case of obvious violations while the
registrar does not.<br>
<br>
As the registrar may not even know the actual registrant,
for example <br>
for registrations under third party privacy services, it
does not even <br>
make sense to contact the registrar.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 20.02.2017 um 12:08 schrieb Michele Neylon -
Blacknight:<br>
> Volker<br>
><br>
> The key thing is the sequence.<br>
> If the contact’s details are available either via
whois OR on the website then they’re the first port of call.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Michele<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Mr Michele Neylon<br>
> Blacknight Solutions<br>
> Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<br>
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<br>
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> Some thoughts: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
> -------------------------------<br>
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit
12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<br>
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company
No.: 370845<br>
><br>
> On 20/02/2017, 10:46, "Volker Greimann"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Well, the registrant may not be the right
contact in all cases,<br>
> especially if it comes down to subdomains. But
yes, if the registrant is<br>
> known, then he should probably be contacted
right after a known website<br>
> operator. But if the registrant is unknown, the
next contact should be<br>
> the host as he is closer to the alleged
violation than the registrar.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> <br>
> Volker<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Am 20.02.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Michele Neylon -
Blacknight:<br>
> > Volker<br>
> ><br>
> > Really?<br>
> > As a hosting provider I’d strongly
disagree.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you’ve got a problem with content on a
website you should contact the registrant first.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards<br>
> ><br>
> > Michele<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Mr Michele Neylon<br>
> > Blacknight Solutions<br>
> > Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
> > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><br>
> > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
> > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<br>
> > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<br>
> > Personal blog: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a><br>
> > Some thoughts: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
> > -------------------------------<br>
> > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit
12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<br>
> > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland
Company No.: 370845<br>
> ><br>
> > On 20/02/2017, 09:54,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofVolkerGreimann">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Volker
Greimann"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofvgreimann@key-systems.net"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of
vgreimann@key-systems.net></a> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > When you say web site, it should be
taken up with the web host not the<br>
> > registrar as the registrant is not
necessarily the correct content.<br>
> ><br>
> > Problems with domain -> registrant<br>
> ><br>
> > Problems with content -> Web host<br>
> ><br>
> > Best,<br>
> ><br>
> > Volker<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Am 17.02.2017 um 20:49 schrieb Mark
Svancarek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
> > > Counter example<br>
> > > "Joe" has a web site which is
used to abuse my trademark. I can't contact Joe because his
thin data is incorrect or hidden (I don't know that Joe is
actually Joe.). I then contact the registrar. They follow up
with the privacy proxy service if needed. Hopefully all this
happens quickly and the cease and desist message is actually
delivered.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > In actual practice, there is a
noteworthy difference in effectiveness if we have to go
through the registrar, compared to us contacting directly. If
the registrar isn't responsive, then I may have to pressure
ICANN to enforce the registrar contract, which has its own
issues.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > In either case, your abuse of my
trademark is probably a civil issue, so starting with law
enforcement isn't a great option, even if they had the
inclination and bandwidth to help out in a timely fashion.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">benny@nordreg.se</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">mailto:benny@nordreg.se</a>]<br>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017
9:41 AM<br>
> > > To: Mark Svancarek
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"><marksv@microsoft.com></a><br>
> > > Cc: RDS PDP WG
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
> > > Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
Dangers of public whois<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Let us take a simple example<br>
> > ><br>
> > > A phone number can you as the one
it's registered on choose by yourself if it shall be published
in the phone book, if you give the number to someone it's your
choice as an individual! If the police want your number they
will get without to much effort.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > So why on earth are we forcing
registrants to give up this right to choose to whom they share
that info?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Forget what Whois are as we know
it and come up with ideas how we can make a new system which
takes reasonable interest of all sides here.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The Status Quo hammering are not
productive at all.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > RDS are meant to make change to
the better!<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sent from my iPhone<br>
> > ><br>
> > >> On 17 Feb 2017, at 18:28,
Mark Svancarek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"><marksv@microsoft.com></a> wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Spam and DDOS will always be
with us, and the need to mitigate them does not eliminate the
need to have public data. It seems orthogonal to me.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > >> From:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> > >>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> > >> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">benny@nordreg.se</a><br>
> > >> Sent: Friday, February 17,
2017 8:25 AM<br>
> > >> To: RDS PDP WG
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
> > >> Subject: Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Another post about the
problems with public whois<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> How anyone here can still
defend this abuse of info as a the best system I have serious
problems understanding.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://domainnamewire.com/2017/02/16/control-block-sms-spam-robocallin">http://domainnamewire.com/2017/02/16/control-block-sms-spam-robocallin</a><br>
> > >> g-based-whois-info/<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> --<br>
> > >> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind
Regards / Med vennlig hilsen<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Benny Samuelsen<br>
> > >> Registry Manager -
Domainexpert<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited
registrar<br>
> > >> IANA-ID: 638<br>
> > >> Phone: +46.42197080<br>
> > >> Direct: +47.32260201<br>
> > >> Mobile: +47.40410200<br>
> > >><br>
> > >>> On 17 Feb 2017, at 14:55,
Michele Neylon - Blacknight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><michele@blacknight.com></a>
wrote:<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Allison<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> As others have said, if
you have an issue please report it to ICANN,<br>
> > >>> law enforcement, consumer
protection etc., Some of us take our obligations very
seriously and lumping all registrars and providers into one
big bucket isn't very helpful for constructive dialogue.<br>
> > >>> We get a number of whois
complaints from ICANN every year and we investigate each and
every one of them. In some cases it's very obvious that the
details provided are bogus, but in others it's not and we have
to spend time energy and effort going back and forth with our
client and ICANN to resolve it. Sometimes this leads to
domains being suspended or deleted, sometimes the whois gets
updated, sometimes the complaint is denied. But each complaint
is handled on its merits.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> We also have a whois
privacy service. It is NOT a fake address. You can check it in
the Irish company office:<br>
> > >>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://search.cro.ie/company/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=480317&type=C">https://search.cro.ie/company/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=480317&type=C</a><br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Now you may not like that
people and organisations choose to obfuscate their contact
details via services like that one, but that's a different
issue entirely. I also personally have correspondence
addresses in the US, mainland UK and a couple in Northern
Ireland. I don't live at any of them, but you can send me
physical mail and I will get it. You could argue that the
address is "fake", but as I can get mail to it I'd suspect
that in many cases it'd be considered valid.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Regards<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Michele<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> --<br>
> > >>> Mr Michele Neylon<br>
> > >>> Blacknight Solutions<br>
> > >>> Hosting, Colocation &
Domains<br>
> > >>>
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> > >>> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
> > >>> Intl. +353 (0) 59
9183072<br>
> > >>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59
9183090<br>
> > >>> Personal blog:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a><br>
> > >>> Some thoughts:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
> > >>>
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> > >>> Blacknight Internet
Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business<br>
> > >>> Park,Sleaty<br>
> > >>>
Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.:
370845<br>
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> <br>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<br>
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Volker A. Greimann<br>
- Rechtsabteilung -<br>
<br>
Key-Systems GmbH<br>
Im Oberen Werk 1<br>
66386 St. Ingbert<br>
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<br>
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<br>
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><br>
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Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a><br>
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<br>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<br>
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken<br>
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<br>
<br>
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a><br>
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Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für
den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der
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Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail
oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.<br>
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Should you have any further questions, please do not
hesitate to contact us.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Volker A. Greimann<br>
- legal department -<br>
<br>
Key-Systems GmbH<br>
Im Oberen Werk 1<br>
66386 St. Ingbert<br>
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<br>
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<br>
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><br>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
--------------------------------------------
Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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