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<p>Which is why everyone seems to want registrar obligations that
force them to do what is actually the hosting providers' job. <br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.02.2017 um 16:33 schrieb Michele
Neylon - Blacknight:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hosting
providers don’t have a relationship with ICANN . ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mr
Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight
Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hosting,
Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Intl.
+353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Direct
Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personal
blog: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some
thoughts: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight
Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
Park,Sleaty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Sam
Lanfranco <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net"><sam@lanfranco.net></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 24 February 2017 at 15:25<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
John Horton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com"><john.horton@legitscript.com></a>, Volker
Greimann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public
whois<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Michele,<br>
<br>
The current anarchy in complaint strategies involves $costs.
Agreement on something by ICANN, as a general starting point
roadmap for Complaints, should be doable.<br>
Complaints won't go away and some guidance is better than no
guidance (and less costly to registrars by dulling, deflecting
and re-directing initial contact)<br>
<br>
Sam <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/24/2017 9:21 AM, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That
would involve us all agreeing on $stuff
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So
I suspect it wouldn’t work</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">M</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mr
Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight
Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hosting,
Colocation & Domains</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Intl.
+353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Direct
Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personal
blog:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some
thoughts:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight
Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Sam
Lanfranco <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">
<sam@lanfranco.net></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 24 February 2017 at 14:17<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
John Horton
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com"><john.horton@legitscript.com></a>,
Volker Greimann
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public
whois</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#660000">Michele, et. al.<br>
<br>
I may be way off base here but I am thinking about the
complaints issue from a researcher perspective.
<br>
<br>
Would there be any merit to simply having a link in, or at
the bottom of, the public (rds/whois) data that is a link
to a site
<br>
(standard by registrar, by country, icann, or whatever)
that has a "howto guide" for going forward with a
complaint?<br>
If that existed it could be added to the "Contact Us",
FAQ, and other link sites.<br>
Available at those points of inquiry it would probably
redirect a lot of traffic away from the registrar.
<br>
<br>
It might work at the ICANN level much as the following
that turns up in a whois search:
<br>
</span><br>
<span style="color:#660000">>>> Last update of
whois database: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:23:29 GMT <<<<br>
<br>
For more information on Whois status codes, please visit<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/epp-status-codes-2014-06-16-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/epp-status-codes-2014-06-16-en</a>.<br>
</span><i><span style="color:red">Maybe => For complaint
information please visit
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/domain-name-complaints">https://www.icann.org/domain-name-complaints</a><br>
<br>
</span></i><span style="color:#660000">Sam L. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/24/2017 8:46 AM, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">John</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
don’t think anyone was trying to push for “rules” about
how reports should be made.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
know I wasn’t.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ll
also keep telling people who complain to us about $stuff
to go to our clients first .. since most of the time
they’re the ones they should be dealing with.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Michele</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mr
Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight
Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hosting,
Colocation & Domains</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Intl.
+353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Direct
Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personal
blog:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some
thoughts:
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight
Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">John
Horton <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com">
<john.horton@legitscript.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 24 February 2017 at 13:40<br>
<b>To: </b>Volker Greimann <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>theo geurts <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl"><gtheo@xs4all.nl></a>,
Michele Neylon
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">
"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a> <a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of
public whois</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#444444">I like
Volker's idea of including hosting details in the
ultimate RDS. It's additional information, which
may be useful to the viewer. From a concrete
use-case perspective, when I or one of my analysts
is evaluating whether a merchant should be boarded
with a bank or rejected based on risk, it's
certainly one of the details we look it. (I'm not
sure it's technically "registration data," but not
sure if that matters.)</span>
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<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#444444">I
object to using the RDS (or this group) to
establish chains or a hierarchy of responsibility
as being outside of our scope and mandate. (Chuck,
maybe we can get a ruling on that?) I realize that
there are members of this group who believe that a
complainant should always go to the registrant
first, then the host, and only the registrar as a
last resort (some believe never). But that's not
how everyone feels. Others believe it should be
the payment processor first. Still others believe
the registrar should be the first point of contact
for a complaint. Still others believe there is no
hierarchy and it's a case-by-case solution and all
facilitators are equally valid points of contact.
My point is not to get into an argument about who
is right there (I and I'm sure many others don't
have the time, and many of us have discussed this
elsewhere); I simply don't think we should be
using this group to try and resolve that
particular issue, or impose some sort of a
structure on internet users, because I think it's
probably outside the scope of our mandate (and I
will strongly note that I don't think there's
consensus on that issue).</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Arial;color:#444444">Chuck, if
I'm wrong and it's inside the scope of our mandate
to use the RDS to establish a structure about who
a complainant should approach first, second,
third, fourth, etc. let us know, but if it's in
scope, that's going to be a somewhat different
discussion. Again, my objective here isn't to
launch another 100-email debate about who is right
or wrong; my objective is to argue that a) the
idea of including hosting information in the RDS
seems like a pretty reasonable one, but b) doing
that in order to impose rules on internet users on
what complaint hierarchy they should follow is out
of scope for our mandate. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:35 AM,
Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So should we maybe include
hosting details in the ultimate RDS? These would
have to be supplied differently, but it would make
sense if we want to establish chains of
responsibility in the data.
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<br>
Am 20.02.2017 um 14:20 schrieb theo geurts:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good point Michele,<br>
<br>
RDS should be a facilitating here in the
sense that reports end up at the correct
party and yet give the reporter a logical
natural flow in creating the report without
creating confusion with different set of
contacts.<br>
<br>
Theo<br>
<br>
<br>
On 20-2-2017 12:24, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Volker<br>
<br>
From our perspective the frustration is
when the client (registrant) has their
details in whois and / or on the website
and the complainant makes zero attempt to
contact them. The first we hear about the
alleged issues is when I get a 100 page
takedown notice on my desk.<br>
So if they can at least attempt to contact
the website operator then it makes our
lives a lot easier.<br>
As the hosting provider we *should* have
details of how to reach the site owner,
but not always, as we also offer dedicated
servers, colo etc., but we’ll know who the
IPs are assigned to<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Michele<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Mr Michele Neylon<br>
Blacknight Solutions<br>
Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blacknight.blog/"
target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
Intl. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072"
target="_blank">+353 (0) 59 9183072</a><br>
Direct Dial: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090"
target="_blank">+353 (0)59 9183090</a><br>
Personal blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://michele.blog/"
target="_blank">https://michele.blog/</a><br>
Some thoughts: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://ceo.hosting/"
target="_blank">https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
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Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit
12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<br>
Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<br>
<br>
On 20/02/2017, 11:21, "Volker Greimann"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Agreed. The question is who is next
if the details are not available. If<br>
it is content, the next port of call
should be the host as the host has<br>
the ability to remove said content
and also bears certain legal<br>
obligations in case of obvious
violations while the registrar does not.<br>
As the registrar may not even
know the actual registrant, for example<br>
for registrations under third party
privacy services, it does not even<br>
make sense to contact the registrar.<br>
Best,<br>
Volker<br>
Am 20.02.2017 um 12:08
schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:<br>
> Volker<br>
><br>
> The key thing is the sequence.<br>
> If the contact’s details are
available either via whois OR on the
website then they’re the first port of
call.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Michele<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Mr Michele Neylon<br>
> Blacknight Solutions<br>
> Hosting, Colocation &
Domains<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blacknight.blog/"
target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
> Intl. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072" target="_blank">+353 (0)
59 9183072</a><br>
> Direct Dial: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090"
target="_blank">+353 (0)59 9183090</a><br>
> Personal blog: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://michele.blog/"
target="_blank">https://michele.blog/</a><br>
> Some thoughts: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://ceo.hosting/"
target="_blank">https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
> -------------------------------<br>
> Blacknight Internet Solutions
Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
Park,Sleaty<br>
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<br>
><br>
> On 20/02/2017, 10:46, "Volker
Greimann" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Well, the registrant may
not be the right contact in all cases,<br>
> especially if it comes down
to subdomains. But yes, if the registrant
is<br>
> known, then he should
probably be contacted right after a known
website<br>
> operator. But if the
registrant is unknown, the next contact
should be<br>
> the host as he is closer to
the alleged violation than the registrar.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Volker<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Am 20.02.2017 um 11:28
schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:<br>
> > Volker<br>
> ><br>
> > Really?<br>
> > As a hosting provider
I’d strongly disagree.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you’ve got a
problem with content on a website you
should contact the registrant first.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards<br>
> ><br>
> > Michele<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Mr Michele Neylon<br>
> > Blacknight Solutions<br>
> > Hosting, Colocation
& Domains<br>
> > <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><br>
> > <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blacknight.blog/"
target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
> > Intl. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072"
target="_blank">
+353 (0) 59 9183072</a><br>
> > Direct Dial: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090"
target="_blank">
+353 (0)59 9183090</a><br>
> > Personal blog: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://michele.blog/"
target="_blank">https://michele.blog/</a><br>
> > Some thoughts: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://ceo.hosting/"
target="_blank">https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
> >
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> > Blacknight Internet
Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside
Business Park,Sleaty<br>
> >
Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland
Company No.: 370845<br>
> ><br>
> > On 20/02/2017, 09:54,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
on behalf of Volker Greimann" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
on behalf of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > When you say web
site, it should be taken up with the web
host not the<br>
> > registrar as the
registrant is not necessarily the correct
content.<br>
> ><br>
> > Problems with
domain -> registrant<br>
> ><br>
> > Problems with
content -> Web host<br>
> ><br>
> > Best,<br>
> ><br>
> > Volker<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Am 17.02.2017 um
20:49 schrieb Mark Svancarek via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
> > > Counter
example<br>
> > > "Joe" has a
web site which is used to abuse my
trademark. I can't contact Joe because
his thin data is incorrect or hidden (I
don't know that Joe is actually Joe.). I
then contact the registrar. They follow
up with the privacy proxy service if
needed. Hopefully all this happens
quickly and the cease and desist message
is actually delivered.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > In actual
practice, there is a noteworthy difference
in effectiveness if we have to go through
the registrar, compared to us contacting
directly. If the registrar isn't
responsive, then I may have to pressure
ICANN to enforce the registrar contract,
which has its own issues.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > In either
case, your abuse of my trademark is
probably a civil issue, so starting with
law enforcement isn't a great option, even
if they had the inclination and bandwidth
to help out in a timely fashion.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >
-----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se"
target="_blank">benny@nordreg.se</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se"
target="_blank">benny@nordreg.se</a>]<br>
> > > Sent:
Friday, February 17, 2017 9:41 AM<br>
> > > To: Mark
Svancarek <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"
target="_blank">marksv@microsoft.com</a>><br>
> > > Cc: RDS PDP
WG <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
> > > Subject: Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Let us take
a simple example<br>
> > ><br>
> > > A phone
number can you as the one it's registered
on choose by yourself if it shall be
published in the phone book, if you give
the number to someone it's your choice as
an individual! If the police want your
number they will get without to much
effort.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > So why on
earth are we forcing registrants to give
up this right to choose to whom they share
that info?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Forget what
Whois are as we know it and come up with
ideas how we can make a new system which
takes reasonable interest of all sides
here.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The Status
Quo hammering are not productive at all.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > RDS are
meant to make change to the better!<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sent from my
iPhone<br>
> > ><br>
> > >> On 17
Feb 2017, at 18:28, Mark Svancarek <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"
target="_blank">marksv@microsoft.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Spam and
DDOS will always be with us, and the need
to mitigate them does not eliminate the
need to have public data. It seems
orthogonal to me.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >>
-----Original Message-----<br>
> > >> From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> > >> [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of<br>
> > >> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se"
target="_blank">benny@nordreg.se</a><br>
> > >> Sent:
Friday, February 17, 2017 8:25 AM<br>
> > >> To: RDS
PDP WG <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
> > >> Subject:
Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public
whois<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Another
post about the problems with public whois<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> How
anyone here can still defend this abuse of
info as a the best system I have serious
problems understanding.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://domainnamewire.com/2017/02/16/control-block-sms-spam-robocallin"
target="_blank">
http://domainnamewire.com/2017/02/16/control-block-sms-spam-robocallin</a><br>
> > >>
g-based-whois-info/<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> --<br>
> > >> Med
vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med
vennlig hilsen<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Benny
Samuelsen<br>
> > >> Registry
Manager - Domainexpert<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Nordreg
AB - ICANN accredited registrar<br>
> > >> IANA-ID:
638<br>
> > >> Phone: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B46.42197080"
target="_blank">+46.42197080</a><br>
> > >> Direct:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B47.32260201"
target="_blank">+47.32260201</a><br>
> > >> Mobile:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">+47.40410200</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > >>> On
17 Feb 2017, at 14:55, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>>
Allison<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> As
others have said, if you have an issue
please report it to ICANN,<br>
> > >>> law
enforcement, consumer protection etc.,
Some of us take our obligations very
seriously and lumping all registrars and
providers into one big bucket isn't very
helpful for constructive dialogue.<br>
> > >>> We
get a number of whois complaints from
ICANN every year and we investigate each
and every one of them. In some cases it's
very obvious that the details provided are
bogus, but in others it's not and we have
to spend time energy and effort going back
and forth with our client and ICANN to
resolve it. Sometimes this leads to
domains being suspended or deleted,
sometimes the whois gets updated,
sometimes the complaint is denied. But
each complaint is handled on its merits.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> We
also have a whois privacy service. It is
NOT a fake address. You can check it in
the Irish company office:<br>
> > >>> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://search.cro.ie/company/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=480317&type=C"
target="_blank">
https://search.cro.ie/company/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=480317&type=C</a><br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Now
you may not like that people and
organisations choose to obfuscate their
contact details via services like that
one, but that's a different issue
entirely. I also personally have
correspondence addresses in the US,
mainland UK and a couple in Northern
Ireland. I don't live at any of them, but
you can send me physical mail and I will
get it. You could argue that the address
is "fake", but as I can get mail to it I'd
suspect that in many cases it'd be
considered valid.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>>
Regards<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>>
Michele<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> --<br>
> > >>> Mr
Michele Neylon<br>
> > >>>
Blacknight Solutions<br>
> > >>>
Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
> > >>> <a
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href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><br>
> > >>> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blacknight.blog/"
target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a><br>
> > >>>
Intl. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072"
target="_blank">
+353 (0) 59 9183072</a><br>
> > >>>
Direct Dial: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090"
target="_blank">
+353 (0)59 9183090</a><br>
> > >>>
Personal blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://michele.blog/"
target="_blank">
https://michele.blog/</a><br>
> > >>> Some
thoughts: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://ceo.hosting/"
target="_blank">
https://ceo.hosting/</a><br>
> > >>>
-------------------------------<br>
> > >>>
Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit
12A,Barrowside Business<br>
> > >>>
Park,Sleaty<br>
> > >>>
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X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<br>
> > >>>
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
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