<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>"<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Public disclosure of personal data is a violation of law"</span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Specifically what law outlaws the display of whois information? Do you have a court order, a cease and desist or any documentation to back this up?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Because unless there is some pending action, I am unconvinced this is truly unlawful. Its not like this data being out there is new and that governments haven't been aware of it. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 6, 2017, at 22:32, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks for your
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-06 20:35, allison nixon
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here against investigative
use cases is very interesting. <br>
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To what are you referring, specifically, and what do you mean by
interesting?<br>
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<div>People claim to care about privacy and then attempt to shut
down a major aspect of combating cybercrime, which is a bigger
violator of privacy than all the whois spam put together and
multiplied by a million.</div>
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Who is talking about shutting down? Public disclosure of personal
data is a violation of law. There are many other ways to disclose
the data to lawful investigators.<br>
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<div>To see an individual person denouncing an organization of
many people as somehow not legitimate enough to participate,
while oneself participates- that's also interesting. <br>
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Who are you referring to, which Individual person? And what do you
mean by denounce? and who said the referenced organization ( I
presume you mean the International association of Chiefs of Police)
was not "legitimate enough" to participate? Certainly not me or
Patrick, to whom, I presume, you are directly responding.<br>
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<div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and accurate PII
despite common use of trash data and WHOIS privacy, also
interesting.</div>
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Honest people are putting their accurate data into their
registration data. Criminals, likely not. I am not sure what you
find interesting here, could you please explain what you mean by
interesting, and what particular comment about sensitive and
accurate PII you are referencing? By WHOIS privacy I presume you
mean privacy proxy services??<br>
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<div>Something does not add up.<br>
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Indeed. <br>
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Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Patrick
Lenihan via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span>
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former USA law enforcement officer.
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From: Stephanie Perrin <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>><br>
To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law
enforcement association resolution regarding domain
registration data<br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I
hesitate to even venture a comment on this
topic, lest it generate another 20
comments, but I am very puzzled about this
whole discussion. I am admittedly much
more familiar with the Canadian
Association of Chiefs of Police, a lobby
group/professional association which is
remarkably similar to this organization,
only on a national level. OF course any
of the police lobby associations are free
to join us, but is anyone suggesting that
we do not have adequate representation of
law enforcement interests at ICANN? Do we
not have several representatives of police
agencies on this working group? Law
enforcement organizations regularly form
part of GAC delegations, certainly our
RCMP are often part of the Canadian
delegation to the GAC. Law enforcement
officials have formed a public safety
working group.....any of these
representatives are presumably capable of
drafting papers for their national
organizations and indeed I suspect someone
has drafted this document for the
International Association, given the
specificity of the resolutions. I am sure
many national associations will endorse it
and bring it to their own national
governments, who in turn will forward it
to their GAC delegations. <br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Police
organizations regularly lobby for
legislative change to facilitate their
work. (it is nevertheless interesting that
this international organization has a link
for contacting your congressman, <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/" target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a>
right under the drop down menu for what we
do). It is not surprising that they have
prepared a resolution on WHOIS, those of
us who have followed the impact of
technology on police work have seen many
similar resolutions on different issues.
Police face problems of time and expense,
not to mention constitutional protection.
However, It is not like law enforcement
has not had its views very well
represented at ICANN over many years.
Given, as Michele has pointed out, that
the bar for membership on this working
group is exceedingly low (show up) it
seems to me the issue we need to worry
about is, who does not have the time and
money to show up.<br>
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<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On
2017-03-05 10:57, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">That seems a lot saner and
more scalable.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chuck
Gomes <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank"><cgomes@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday 5 March 2017 at
15:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">"icann@ferdeline.com"</a>
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<b>Cc: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned that this
could turn into an unending
administrative workload for staff and
would like them to focus their time in
helping us do our deliberations. I am
now sorry I made the suggestion.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made a good
suggestion on the leadership list that
we encourage all members to send our
latest WG update to any organizations
that may have a stake in what we are
doing and invite them to join as members
or observers.</span></div>
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Michele Neylon - Blacknight [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05, 2017
8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>;
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law
enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply the names and
contact details for organisations who
you think should be invited to
contribute in some form then I’m sure
that we can deal with it. <br>
However so far you haven’t.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have pointed out,
the ICANN processes are open to
everyone. The barrier to entry is
incredibly low. All you need to do is
turn up.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always welcome and
encouraged.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 4 March 2017 at
19:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Chuck Gomes <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
the invitation to this association will
be going out on ICANN letterhead and
facilitated by ICANN staff, I consider
it only fair that other invitations be
sent out in the same manner.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Ayden </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data</div>
</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:40 PM</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:40</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
suggest you invite them Ayden. If
you are bothered by the fact that
I asked staff to contact the
association I will cancel my
request of staff and encourage
others to do that.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
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</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Ayden Férdeline [<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>]
</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:15 PM</span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Gomes, Chuck <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data</span></span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
we are going to send an invite
letter to this organisation
requesting their participation, I am
happy to provide a list of other
organisations whose voices are
missing from this WG so that ICANN
staff can invite them to participate
as well. Thanks.</div>
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Ayden </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:10 PM</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:10</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
well said Greg.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
seems to me that we should
reach out to them and invite
them to have a representative
or representatives join our
WG.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
– Would one of you please
prepare an invitation letter
and identify who and where we
should send it.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
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</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg
Shatan</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March 04, 2017 11:13
AM</span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>;
Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
RDS PDP WG <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain registration
data</span></span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They
can ask for anything they
like, it is not like it has
legal binding status. It is a
wish list, nothing more..."</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
is no different than any other
stakeholder (or group of
stakeholders). Even GAC members.
So their input should be
accepted on an equal footing
with any other input. There
seems to be a curious amount of
effort devoted to discounting
this input, much of it based on
identity (or opinions about that
identity) rather than substance.</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
top of giving due consideration
to their input, it may also be
appropriate to engage in
outreach and engagement with
this organization.
Participation in the
multistakeholder process would
be more useful in the long run
vs. issuing resolutions. Useful
for them, useful for all of us,
and useful for the process.</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
an INGO of LE professionals,
there may be no existing SO/AC
that would be an appropriate
"home" for the IOCP, which makes
it all the more important that
they understand they are welcome
to participate, as well as to
communicate in other ways (such
as resolutions).</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Greg</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:54 AM
Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">+1
Volker</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding
domain registration data</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 3 March 2017 9:21
AM</div>
</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 3 March 2017 09:21</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good
thing that police are law
"enforcement" not
legislators. They can ask
for anything they like, it
is not like it has legal
binding status. It is a
wish list, nothing more...</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Am
02.03.2017 um 19:35
schrieb Greg Aaron:</div>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
International
Association of Chiefs
of Police (IACP) has
issued an official
resolution regarding
domain name
registration data. </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
resolution requests
that ICANN and related
parties provide
“continued access to
publicly available
databases concerning
the allocation of
Internet resources,
and in situations
where the maintenance
of these databases may
conflict with privacy
regulation, business
concerns, or
data-mining prevention
efforts, fully consult
with the International
law enforcement to
assist in the
resolution of these
potential conflicts
before removing or
restricting law
enforcement access to
this critical
information; and… that
IACP membership
coordinate the above
efforts to achieve the
goal of providing
consistent, equal, and
uniform access to the
above-referenced
resources for all of
the international law
enforcement
community.”</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
in 1893, the IACP (<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://www.iacp.org" target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>)
is the professional
association for law
enforcement officers,
with members in 133
countries worldwide,
primarily
leadership-level
personnel in national,
state/provincial, and
local agencies. "The
Association's goals
are to advance the
science and art of
police services; to
develop and
disseminate improved
administrative,
technical and
operational practices
and promote their use
in police work; to
foster police
cooperation and the
exchange of
information and
experience among
police administrators
throughout the
world....and to
encourage adherence of
all police officers to
high professional
standards of
performance and
conduct."</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
text of the full
resolution is below
and contains the
rationales. It notes
that loss of access to
the currently
available data “would
severely cripple or
eliminate the ability
of law enforcement
agencies to conduct
investigation in a
timely manner.”</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
document is attached,
and also at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions" target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
kindly request that
this be added to our
bank of reference
materials. (Thanks,
Lisa and Michelle.)</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
for Law Enforcement
Access to Publicly
Available and Accurate
Internet Address
Registration Data to
include privacy
protected registrant
information and
related Forensic
Resources to
facilitate
investigation of
Cybercrime and Cyber
Enabled Crime</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
by: Communications and
Technology Committee</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
this is an updated
version of an expired
2005 adopted
resolution then
submitted by the
Communications and
Technology Committee
as CT23.a05 and
adopted at the 112th
Annual Conference; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the lawful
investigation of
Internet
communications is one
of the most valuable
tools available to law
enforcement in
identifying both the
perpetrators and
victims of crime; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the Internet is global
in nature, and as
such, poses challenges
when conducting
multiagency
international
investigations,
including delays
imposed when obtaining
international legal
process; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
electronic or digital
evidence associated
with the Internet is
fleeting in nature,
and law enforcement
officials must obtain
timely access to this
information to fulfill
law enforcement
duties; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
criminals use the
anonymity and
international nature
of the Internet, and
the fleeting nature of
electronic or digital
evidence, to thwart
law enforcement
investigations; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
publicly available
databases containing
information involving
the allocation of
Internet resources and
who they are assigned
to, such as Internet
Protocol address space
and domain names, are
a critical tool used
by law enforcement,
and because these
databases are public
in nature, allow law
enforcement agencies
access to conduct
investigations in the
most timely manner
possible; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
allocation of Internet
resources is expanding
rapidly due to
impending exhaustion
of Internet Protocol
Version 4 address
space and the
subsequent and
simultaneous
implementation of
Internet Protocol
Version 6 as well as
the implementation of
numerous new top level
domains by the
Internet Corporation
for the Assigned Names
and Numbers (ICANN),
accurate and easily
accessible registrant
information is now
even more important to
law enforcement than
in 2005 when the
original resolution
was adopted; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
ICANN and its
International members
involved in the
creation of policy
consensus and
administration of this
information currently
are considering new
registrant data policy
which may seek to
restrict or eliminate
fluid public access
due to business,
privacy, or
data-mining concerns;
and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the elimination or
restriction of easy
fluid access to this
information would
severely cripple or
eliminate the ability
of law enforcement
agencies to conduct
investigation in a
timely manner; now
therefore be it</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
that the International
Association of Chiefs
of Police (IACP)
strongly urges the
related Internet
administration
communities, including
governments, regional
Internet registries,
the Internet
Corporation for
Assigned Names and
Numbers, Internet
Service Providers,
domain-name
registries,
domain-name
registrars, and
Internet service
providers to assist
law enforcement by
providing continued
access to publicly
available databases
concerning the
allocation of Internet
resources, and in
situations where the
maintenance of these
databases may conflict
with privacy
regulation, business
concerns, or
data-mining prevention
efforts, fully consult
with the International
law enforcement to
assist in the
resolution of these
potential conflicts
before removing or
restricting law
enforcement access to
this critical
information; and be it</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the
IACP membership
coordinate the above
efforts to achieve the
goal of providing
consistent, equal, and
uniform access to the
above-referenced
resources for all of
the international law
enforcement community.</div>
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