<div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here against investigative use cases is very interesting. <div><br></div><div>People claim to care about privacy and then attempt to shut down a major aspect of combating cybercrime, which is a bigger violator of privacy than all the whois spam put together and multiplied by a million.<div><br></div><div>To see an individual person denouncing an organization of many people as somehow not legitimate enough to participate, while oneself participates- that's also interesting. </div><div><br></div><div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and accurate PII despite common use of trash data and WHOIS privacy, also interesting.</div><div><br></div><div>Something does not add up.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Patrick Lenihan via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">+1 Stephanie; as a former USA law enforcement officer. <div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">---- Original Message ----<br>
From: Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>><br>
To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement association resolution regarding domain registration data<br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I hesitate to even
venture a comment on this topic, lest it generate another 20
comments, but I am very puzzled about this whole discussion.
I am admittedly much more familiar with the Canadian Association
of Chiefs of Police, a lobby group/professional association which
is remarkably similar to this organization, only on a national
level. OF course any of the police lobby associations are
free to join us, but is anyone suggesting that we do not have
adequate representation of law enforcement interests at
ICANN? Do we not have several representatives of police agencies
on this working group? Law enforcement organizations regularly
form part of GAC delegations, certainly our RCMP are often
part of the Canadian delegation to the GAC. Law enforcement
officials have formed a public safety working group.....any of
these representatives are presumably capable of drafting
papers for their national organizations and indeed I suspect
someone has drafted this document for the International
Association, given the specificity of the resolutions. I am
sure many national associations will endorse it and bring it
to their own national governments, who in turn will forward it
to their GAC delegations. <br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Police organizations
regularly lobby for legislative change to facilitate their
work. (it is nevertheless interesting that this international
organization has a link for contacting your congressman,
<a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/" target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a> right under the drop down
menu for what we do). It is not surprising that they have
prepared a resolution on WHOIS, those of us who have followed
the impact of technology on police work have seen many similar
resolutions on different issues. Police face problems of time
and expense, not to mention constitutional protection.
However, It is not like law enforcement has not had its views
very well represented at ICANN over many years. Given, as
Michele has pointed out, that the bar for membership on this
working group is exceedingly low (show up) it seems to me the
issue we need to worry about is, who does not have the time
and money to show up.<br>
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<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-05 10:57, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">That
seems a lot saner and more scalable.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michele</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black" lang="EN-US">Mr Michele Neylon</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
Company No.: 370845</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"></span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chuck
Gomes <a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank"><cgomes@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday 5 March 2017 at 15:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
<a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">"icann@ferdeline.com"</a> <a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law
enforcement association resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned
that this could turn into an unending administrative
workload for staff and would like them to focus their time
in helping us do our deliberations. I am now sorry I made
the suggestion.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made
a good suggestion on the leadership list that we encourage
all members to send our latest WG update to any
organizations that may have a stake in what we are doing and
invite them to join as members or observers.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Michele
Neylon - Blacknight [<a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>;
Gomes, Chuck <a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank"><cgomes@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply
the names and contact details for organisations who you
think should be invited to contribute in some form then I’m
sure that we can deal with it.
<br>
However so far you haven’t.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have
pointed out, the ICANN processes are open to everyone. The
barrier to entry is incredibly low. All you need to do is
turn up.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always
welcome and encouraged.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michele</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mr
Michele Neylon</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
Company No.: 370845</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden Férdeline <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 4 March 2017 at 19:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Chuck Gomes <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law
enforcement association resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If the invitation to this association
will be going out on ICANN letterhead and facilitated by
ICANN staff, I consider it only fair that other invitations
be sent out in the same manner.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Ayden </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local Time: 4 March 2017 7:40 PM</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
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<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
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<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I suggest
you invite them Ayden. If you are bothered by the
fact that I asked staff to contact the association I
will cancel my request of staff and encourage others
to do that.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Ayden
Férdeline [<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>]
</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 04, 2017
2:15 PM</span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>;
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>;
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement
association resolution regarding domain registration
data</span></span></div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
we are going to send an invite letter to this
organisation requesting their participation, I am happy
to provide a list of other organisations whose voices
are missing from this WG so that ICANN staff can invite
them to participate as well. Thanks.</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement
association resolution regarding domain registration
data</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:10 PM</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:10</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
well said Greg.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
seems to me that we should reach out to them and
invite them to have a representative or
representatives join our WG.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
– Would one of you please prepare an invitation
letter and identify who and where we should send
it.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
[<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 04,
2017 11:13 AM</span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>;
Volker Greimann <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b> RDS PDP WG <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement
association resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></span></div>
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<div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They can ask for anything they
like, it is not like it has legal binding status.
It is a wish list, nothing more..."</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
is no different than any other stakeholder (or group
of stakeholders). Even GAC members. So their input
should be accepted on an equal footing with any
other input. There seems to be a curious amount of
effort devoted to discounting this input, much of it
based on identity (or opinions about that identity)
rather than substance.</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
top of giving due consideration to their input, it
may also be appropriate to engage in outreach and
engagement with this organization. Participation in
the multistakeholder process would be more useful
in the long run vs. issuing resolutions. Useful
for them, useful for all of us, and useful for the
process.</div>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
an INGO of LE professionals, there may be no
existing SO/AC that would be an appropriate "home"
for the IOCP, which makes it all the more important
that they understand they are welcome to
participate, as well as to communicate in other ways
(such as resolutions).</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Greg</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:54 AM Ayden Férdeline
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm6 .0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">+1
Volker</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
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Original Message --------</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law
enforcement association resolution regarding
domain registration data</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 3 March 2017 9:21 AM</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 3 March 2017 09:21</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good thing that police are
law "enforcement" not legislators. They can
ask for anything they like, it is not like it
has legal binding status. It is a wish list,
nothing more...</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Am
02.03.2017 um 19:35 schrieb Greg Aaron:</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
International Association of Chiefs of
Police (IACP) has issued an official
resolution regarding domain name
registration data. </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
resolution requests that ICANN and related
parties provide “continued access to
publicly available databases concerning
the allocation of Internet resources, and
in situations where the maintenance of
these databases may conflict with privacy
regulation, business concerns, or
data-mining prevention efforts, fully
consult with the International law
enforcement to assist in the resolution of
these potential conflicts before removing
or restricting law enforcement access to
this critical information; and… that IACP
membership coordinate the above efforts to
achieve the goal of providing consistent,
equal, and uniform access to the
above-referenced resources for all of the
international law enforcement community.”</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
in 1893, the IACP (<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://www.iacp.org" target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>)
is the professional association for law
enforcement officers, with members in 133
countries worldwide, primarily
leadership-level personnel in national,
state/provincial, and local agencies.
"The Association's goals are to advance
the science and art of police services; to
develop and disseminate improved
administrative, technical and operational
practices and promote their use in police
work; to foster police cooperation and the
exchange of information and experience
among police administrators throughout the
world....and to encourage adherence of all
police officers to high professional
standards of performance and conduct."</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
text of the full resolution is below and
contains the rationales. It notes that
loss of access to the currently available
data “would severely cripple or eliminate
the ability of law enforcement agencies to
conduct investigation in a timely manner.”</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
document is attached, and also at:
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions" target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
kindly request that this be added to our
bank of reference materials. (Thanks,
Lisa and Michelle.)</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
for Law Enforcement Access to Publicly
Available and Accurate Internet Address
Registration Data to include privacy
protected registrant information and
related Forensic Resources to facilitate
investigation of Cybercrime and Cyber
Enabled Crime</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
by: Communications and Technology
Committee</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
this is an updated version of an expired
2005 adopted resolution then submitted by
the Communications and Technology
Committee as CT23.a05 and adopted at the
112th Annual Conference; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the lawful investigation of Internet
communications is one of the most valuable
tools available to law enforcement in
identifying both the perpetrators and
victims of crime; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the Internet is global in nature, and as
such, poses challenges when conducting
multiagency international investigations,
including delays imposed when obtaining
international legal process; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
electronic or digital evidence associated
with the Internet is fleeting in nature,
and law enforcement officials must obtain
timely access to this information to
fulfill law enforcement duties; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
criminals use the anonymity and
international nature of the Internet, and
the fleeting nature of electronic or
digital evidence, to thwart law
enforcement investigations; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
publicly available databases containing
information involving the allocation of
Internet resources and who they are
assigned to, such as Internet Protocol
address space and domain names, are a
critical tool used by law enforcement, and
because these databases are public in
nature, allow law enforcement agencies
access to conduct investigations in the
most timely manner possible; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
allocation of Internet resources is
expanding rapidly due to impending
exhaustion of Internet Protocol Version 4
address space and the subsequent and
simultaneous implementation of Internet
Protocol Version 6 as well as the
implementation of numerous new top level
domains by the Internet Corporation for
the Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN),
accurate and easily accessible registrant
information is now even more important to
law enforcement than in 2005 when the
original resolution was adopted; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
ICANN and its International members
involved in the creation of policy
consensus and administration of this
information currently are considering new
registrant data policy which may seek to
restrict or eliminate fluid public access
due to business, privacy, or data-mining
concerns; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the elimination or restriction of easy
fluid access to this information would
severely cripple or eliminate the ability
of law enforcement agencies to conduct
investigation in a timely manner; now
therefore be it</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
that the International Association of
Chiefs of Police (IACP) strongly urges the
related Internet administration
communities, including governments,
regional Internet registries, the Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers, Internet Service Providers,
domain-name registries, domain-name
registrars, and Internet service providers
to assist law enforcement by providing
continued access to publicly available
databases concerning the allocation of
Internet resources, and in situations
where the maintenance of these databases
may conflict with privacy regulation,
business concerns, or data-mining
prevention efforts, fully consult with the
International law enforcement to assist in
the resolution of these potential
conflicts before removing or restricting
law enforcement access to this critical
information; and be it</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the IACP membership
coordinate the above efforts to achieve
the goal of providing consistent, equal,
and uniform access to the above-referenced
resources for all of the international law
enforcement community.</div>
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