<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div style="direction: inherit;">I didn't find specifically what you are referencing but did see this ICANN legal review that seems to directly contradict what you are saying. <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf</a></div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Mar 6, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Please check the
documents which we have received from the data protection
authorities over the past 18 years, they are in the library
of reference documents.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-06 23:41, John Bambenek
wrote:<br>
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<div>"<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Public
disclosure of personal data is a violation of law"</span></div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Specifically what law outlaws the
display of whois information? Do you have a court order, a cease
and desist or any documentation to back this up?</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Because unless there is some pending
action, I am unconvinced this is truly unlawful. Its not like
this data being out there is new and that governments haven't
been aware of it. <br>
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Sent from my iPhone</div>
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On Mar 6, 2017, at 22:32, Stephanie Perrin <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks for your
interest. My comments inline.</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-06 20:35, allison
nixon wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here against
investigative use cases is very interesting. <br>
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</blockquote>
To what are you referring, specifically, and what do you mean
by interesting?<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">
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<div>People claim to care about privacy and then attempt
to shut down a major aspect of combating cybercrime,
which is a bigger violator of privacy than all the whois
spam put together and multiplied by a million.</div>
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</blockquote>
Who is talking about shutting down? Public disclosure of
personal data is a violation of law. There are many other
ways to disclose the data to lawful investigators.<br>
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<div>To see an individual person denouncing an
organization of many people as somehow not legitimate
enough to participate, while oneself participates-
that's also interesting. <br>
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</blockquote>
Who are you referring to, which Individual person? And what
do you mean by denounce? and who said the referenced
organization ( I presume you mean the International
association of Chiefs of Police) was not "legitimate enough"
to participate? Certainly not me or Patrick, to whom, I
presume, you are directly responding.<br>
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<div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and accurate
PII despite common use of trash data and WHOIS
privacy, also interesting.</div>
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</blockquote>
Honest people are putting their accurate data into their
registration data. Criminals, likely not. I am not sure what
you find interesting here, could you please explain what you
mean by interesting, and what particular comment about
sensitive and accurate PII you are referencing? By WHOIS
privacy I presume you mean privacy proxy services??<br>
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<div>Something does not add up.<br>
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Indeed. <br>
<br>
Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:40 PM,
Patrick Lenihan via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial" color="black" size="2">+1 Stephanie; as
a former USA law enforcement officer.
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To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data<br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">I hesitate to even venture a
comment on this topic, lest it
generate another 20 comments, but I
am very puzzled about this whole
discussion. I am admittedly much
more familiar with the Canadian
Association of Chiefs of Police, a
lobby group/professional association
which is remarkably similar to this
organization, only on a national
level. OF course any of the police
lobby associations are free to join
us, but is anyone suggesting that we
do not have adequate representation
of law enforcement interests at
ICANN? Do we not have several
representatives of police agencies
on this working group? Law
enforcement organizations regularly
form part of GAC delegations,
certainly our RCMP are often part of
the Canadian delegation to the GAC.
Law enforcement officials have
formed a public safety working
group.....any of these
representatives are presumably
capable of drafting papers for their
national organizations and indeed I
suspect someone has drafted this
document for the International
Association, given the specificity
of the resolutions. I am sure many
national associations will endorse
it and bring it to their own
national governments, who in turn
will forward it to their GAC
delegations. <br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">Police organizations
regularly lobby for legislative
change to facilitate their work. (it
is nevertheless interesting that
this international organization has
a link for contacting your
congressman, <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/" target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a>
right under the drop down menu for
what we do). It is not surprising
that they have prepared a resolution
on WHOIS, those of us who have
followed the impact of technology on
police work have seen many similar
resolutions on different issues.
Police face problems of time and
expense, not to mention
constitutional protection. However,
It is not like law enforcement has
not had its views very well
represented at ICANN over many
years. Given, as Michele has pointed
out, that the bar for membership on
this working group is exceedingly
low (show up) it seems to me the
issue we need to worry about is, who
does not have the time and money to
show up.<br>
</font></font></div>
<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chuck
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<b>Date: </b>Sunday 5 March
2017 at 15:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">"icann@ferdeline.com"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned that this
could turn into an unending
administrative workload for staff
and would like them to focus their
time in helping us do our
deliberations. I am now sorry I
made the suggestion.</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made a good
suggestion on the leadership list
that we encourage all members to
send our latest WG update to any
organizations that may have a
stake in what we are doing and
invite them to join as members or
observers.</span></div>
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Michele Neylon - Blacknight [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05,
2017 8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>;
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<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain registration
data</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply the names and
contact details for organisations
who you think should be invited to
contribute in some form then I’m
sure that we can deal with it. <br>
However so far you haven’t.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have pointed out,
the ICANN processes are open to
everyone. The barrier to entry is
incredibly low. All you need to do
is turn up.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always welcome and
encouraged.</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
Company No.: 370845</span></div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Ayden Férdeline
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden
Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 4 March
2017 at 19:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Chuck Gomes <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
the invitation to this association
will be going out on ICANN
letterhead and facilitated by
ICANN staff, I consider it only
fair that other invitations be
sent out in the same manner.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Ayden </div>
</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:40 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:40</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
suggest you invite them
Ayden. If you are bothered
by the fact that I asked
staff to contact the
association I will cancel my
request of staff and
encourage others to do that.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
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</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Ayden Férdeline [<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>]
</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March 04, 2017
2:15 PM</span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Gomes, Chuck <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
we are going to send an invite
letter to this organisation
requesting their
participation, I am happy to
provide a list of other
organisations whose voices are
missing from this WG so that
ICANN staff can invite them to
participate as well. Thanks.</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
</div>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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Original Message --------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:10 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:10</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
well said Greg.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
seems to me that we
should reach out to them
and invite them to have
a representative or
representatives join our
WG.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
– Would one of you
please prepare an
invitation letter and
identify who and where
we should send it.</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
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</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg
Shatan</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March 04, 2017
11:13 AM</span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>;
Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
RDS PDP WG <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br>
<span class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding
domain registration data</span></span></div>
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<div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They
can ask for anything
they like, it is not
like it has legal
binding status. It is a
wish list, nothing
more..."</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
is no different than any
other stakeholder (or
group of stakeholders).
Even GAC members. So their
input should be accepted
on an equal footing with
any other input. There
seems to be a curious
amount of effort devoted
to discounting this input,
much of it based on
identity (or opinions
about that identity)
rather than substance.</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
top of giving due
consideration to their
input, it may also be
appropriate to engage in
outreach and engagement
with this organization.
Participation in the
multistakeholder process
would be more useful in
the long run vs. issuing
resolutions. Useful for
them, useful for all of
us, and useful for the
process.</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
an INGO of LE
professionals, there may
be no existing SO/AC that
would be an appropriate
"home" for the IOCP, which
makes it all the more
important that they
understand they are
welcome to participate, as
well as to communicate in
other ways (such as
resolutions).</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Greg</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at
11:54 AM Ayden
Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">+1
Volker</div>
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</div>
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<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
</div>
</div>
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Original Message
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association
resolution
regarding domain
registration data</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 3 March 2017
9:21 AM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 3 March 2017
09:21</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></div>
</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good
thing that police
are law
"enforcement" not
legislators. They
can ask for anything
they like, it is not
like it has legal
binding status. It
is a wish list,
nothing more...</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Am
02.03.2017 um
19:35 schrieb Greg
Aaron:</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
International
Association of
Chiefs of Police
(IACP) has
issued an
official
resolution
regarding domain
name
registration
data. </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
resolution
requests that
ICANN and
related parties
provide
“continued
access to
publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these databases
may conflict
with privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with the
International
law enforcement
to assist in the
resolution of
these potential
conflicts before
removing or
restricting law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information;
and… that IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts to
achieve the goal
of providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law enforcement
community.”</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
in 1893, the
IACP (<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="http://www.iacp.org" target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>) is the professional association for
law enforcement
officers, with
members in 133
countries
worldwide,
primarily
leadership-level
personnel in
national,
state/provincial,
and local
agencies. "The
Association's
goals are to
advance the
science and art
of police
services; to
develop and
disseminate
improved
administrative,
technical and
operational
practices and
promote their
use in police
work; to foster
police
cooperation and
the exchange of
information and
experience among
police
administrators
throughout the
world....and to
encourage
adherence of all
police officers
to high
professional
standards of
performance and
conduct."</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
text of the full
resolution is
below and
contains the
rationales. It
notes that loss
of access to the
currently
available data
“would severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation in
a timely
manner.”</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
document is
attached, and
also at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener
noreferrer" href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions" target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
kindly request
that this be
added to our
bank of
reference
materials.
(Thanks, Lisa
and Michelle.)</div>
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<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
for Law
Enforcement
Access to
Publicly
Available and
Accurate
Internet Address
Registration
Data to include
privacy
protected
registrant
information and
related Forensic
Resources to
facilitate
investigation of
Cybercrime and
Cyber Enabled
Crime</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
by:
Communications
and Technology
Committee</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
this is an
updated version
of an expired
2005 adopted
resolution then
submitted by the
Communications
and Technology
Committee as
CT23.a05 and
adopted at the
112th Annual
Conference; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the lawful
investigation of
Internet
communications
is one of the
most valuable
tools available
to law
enforcement in
identifying both
the perpetrators
and victims of
crime; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the Internet is
global in
nature, and as
such, poses
challenges when
conducting
multiagency
international
investigations,
including delays
imposed when
obtaining
international
legal process;
and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
electronic or
digital evidence
associated with
the Internet is
fleeting in
nature, and law
enforcement
officials must
obtain timely
access to this
information to
fulfill law
enforcement
duties; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
criminals use
the anonymity
and
international
nature of the
Internet, and
the fleeting
nature of
electronic or
digital
evidence, to
thwart law
enforcement
investigations;
and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
publicly
available
databases
containing
information
involving the
allocation of
Internet
resources and
who they are
assigned to,
such as Internet
Protocol address
space and domain
names, are a
critical tool
used by law
enforcement, and
because these
databases are
public in
nature, allow
law enforcement
agencies access
to conduct
investigations
in the most
timely manner
possible; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
allocation of
Internet
resources is
expanding
rapidly due to
impending
exhaustion of
Internet
Protocol Version
4 address space
and the
subsequent and
simultaneous
implementation
of Internet
Protocol Version
6 as well as the
implementation
of numerous new
top level
domains by the
Internet
Corporation for
the Assigned
Names and
Numbers (ICANN),
accurate and
easily
accessible
registrant
information is
now even more
important to law
enforcement than
in 2005 when the
original
resolution was
adopted; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
ICANN and its
International
members involved
in the creation
of policy
consensus and
administration
of this
information
currently are
considering new
registrant data
policy which may
seek to restrict
or eliminate
fluid public
access due to
business,
privacy, or
data-mining
concerns; and</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the elimination
or restriction
of easy fluid
access to this
information
would severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation in
a timely manner;
now therefore be
it</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
that the
International
Association of
Chiefs of Police
(IACP) strongly
urges the
related Internet
administration
communities,
including
governments,
regional
Internet
registries, the
Internet
Corporation for
Assigned Names
and Numbers,
Internet Service
Providers,
domain-name
registries,
domain-name
registrars, and
Internet service
providers to
assist law
enforcement by
providing
continued access
to publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these databases
may conflict
with privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with the
International
law enforcement
to assist in the
resolution of
these potential
conflicts before
removing or
restricting law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information; and
be it</div>
<div class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">FURTHER
RESOLVED, that
the IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts to
achieve the goal
of providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law enforcement
community.</div>
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