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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">This is why they are
coming to Copenhagen. I urge you to listen to what Giovanni
Buttarelli says next week. When I worked for the Canadian
Privacy Commissioner, I spoke at the Vancouver conference
(2005??). Giovanni Buttarelli came in 2003 I believe, Rodota
earlier. Diana Alonso Blass came to Montreal, I think that
was 2003.....</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">To demand that no
action be taken until someone takes a case to Court, is, in my
view, not an acceptable position to take, when it is not you
that will be in Court defending ICANN's policies and
contracts. However, I can assure you that there are plenty of
folks out there ready to mount a campaign if reasoned
discussion gets us nowhere....</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-07 08:51, John Bambenek
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:AC7AC299-AA24-4D9F-AF48-BD07576BCF8C@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">
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<div>None of those seem to assert that publication of whois data
is illegal or that concerns for the edge cases aren't handled by
the various whois privacy regimes. And apparently they've been
looking at this for at least 14 years and haven't initiated a
legal action. </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">But since we're in the open and
invited mood, let's not limit ourselves to interpreting what
they have said in limited ways as a global principle. Why not
just invite them to the group and they can speak for themselves
directly. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 6, 2017, at 23:25, Stephanie Perrin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Attached are a
few. Happy reading.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-07 00:04, John
Bambenek wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:B80A3D10-5F27-432D-89C1-018420DD70F1@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">
<div>
<div style="direction: inherit;">I didn't find
specifically what you are referencing but did see this
ICANN legal review that seems to directly contradict
what you are saying. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52889541/ICANN%20Memorandum%20to%20the%20IRT%20-%20Thin%20to%20Thick%20WHOIS%20Transition_Final_2015-06-08.pdf</a></div>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 6, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Stephanie Perrin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Please
check the documents which we have received from
the data protection authorities over the past 18
years, they are in the library of reference
documents.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-06 23:41, John
Bambenek wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:DCA64E58-0EAE-428E-BE18-6AC5766C4CD3@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">
<div>"<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
255, 0);">Public disclosure of personal data is a
violation of law"</span></div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">Specifically what law
outlaws the display of whois information? Do you
have a court order, a cease and desist or any
documentation to back this up?</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">Because unless there is
some pending action, I am unconvinced this is truly
unlawful. Its not like this data being out there is
new and that governments haven't been aware of it. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 6, 2017, at 22:32, Stephanie Perrin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks
for your interest. My comments inline.</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-06 20:35,
allison nixon wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here
against investigative use cases is very
interesting. <br>
</div>
</blockquote>
To what are you referring, specifically, and what
do you mean by interesting?<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>People claim to care about privacy and
then attempt to shut down a major aspect of
combating cybercrime, which is a bigger
violator of privacy than all the whois spam
put together and multiplied by a million.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Who is talking about shutting down? Public
disclosure of personal data is a violation of
law. There are many other ways to disclose the
data to lawful investigators.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>To see an individual person denouncing
an organization of many people as somehow
not legitimate enough to participate,
while oneself participates- that's also
interesting. <br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Who are you referring to, which Individual
person? And what do you mean by denounce? and who
said the referenced organization ( I presume you
mean the International association of Chiefs of
Police) was not "legitimate enough" to
participate? Certainly not me or Patrick, to
whom, I presume, you are directly responding.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and
accurate PII despite common use of trash
data and WHOIS privacy, also interesting.</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Honest people are putting their accurate data into
their registration data. Criminals, likely not.
I am not sure what you find interesting here,
could you please explain what you mean by
interesting, and what particular comment about
sensitive and accurate PII you are referencing?
By WHOIS privacy I presume you mean privacy proxy
services??<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Something does not add up.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Indeed. <br>
<br>
Stephanie Perrin<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017
at 7:40 PM, Patrick Lenihan via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font
face="arial" color="black" size="2">+1
Stephanie; as a former USA law
enforcement officer.
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
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Original Message ----<br>
From: Stephanie Perrin <<a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>><br>
To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data<br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font
face="Lucida Grande">I
hesitate to even venture
a comment on this topic,
lest it generate another
20 comments, but I am
very puzzled about this
whole discussion. I am
admittedly much more
familiar with the
Canadian Association of
Chiefs of Police, a
lobby group/professional
association which is
remarkably similar to
this organization, only
on a national level. OF
course any of the police
lobby associations are
free to join us, but is
anyone suggesting that
we do not have adequate
representation of law
enforcement interests at
ICANN? Do we not have
several representatives
of police agencies on
this working group? Law
enforcement
organizations regularly
form part of GAC
delegations, certainly
our RCMP are often part
of the Canadian
delegation to the GAC.
Law enforcement
officials have formed a
public safety working
group.....any of these
representatives are
presumably capable of
drafting papers for
their national
organizations and indeed
I suspect someone has
drafted this document
for the International
Association, given the
specificity of the
resolutions. I am sure
many national
associations will
endorse it and bring it
to their own national
governments, who in turn
will forward it to their
GAC delegations. <br>
</font></font></div>
<div><font size="+1"><font
face="Lucida Grande">Police
organizations regularly
lobby for legislative
change to facilitate
their work. (it is
nevertheless interesting
that this international
organization has a link
for contacting your
congressman, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/"
target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a>
right under the drop
down menu for what we
do). It is not
surprising that they
have prepared a
resolution on WHOIS,
those of us who have
followed the impact of
technology on police
work have seen many
similar resolutions on
different issues.
Police face problems of
time and expense, not to
mention constitutional
protection. However, It
is not like law
enforcement has not had
its views very well
represented at ICANN
over many years. Given,
as Michele has pointed
out, that the bar for
membership on this
working group is
exceedingly low (show
up) it seems to me the
issue we need to worry
about is, who does not
have the time and money
to show up.<br>
</font></font></div>
<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On
2017-03-05 10:57, Michele
Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<div
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style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chuck
Gomes <a
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<b>Date: </b>Sunday
5 March 2017 at
15:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele
Neylon <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener
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href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">"icann@ferdeline.com"</a>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a
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noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association
resolution regarding
domain registration
data</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
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</div>
<div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned that this
could turn into an
unending
administrative
workload for staff and
would like them to
focus their time in
helping us do our
deliberations. I am
now sorry I made the
suggestion.</span></div>
<div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made a good
suggestion on the
leadership list that
we encourage all
members to send our
latest WG update to
any organizations that
may have a stake in
what we are doing and
invite them to join as
members or observers.</span></div>
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Michele Neylon -
Blacknight [<a
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Sunday, March 05,
2017 8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden
Férdeline <a
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noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>;
Gomes, Chuck <a
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noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
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<b>Cc:</b> <a
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<b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association
resolution
regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply the names and
contact details for
organisations who you
think should be
invited to contribute
in some form then I’m
sure that we can deal
with it. <br>
However so far you
haven’t.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have pointed out,
the ICANN processes
are open to everyone.
The barrier to entry
is incredibly low. All
you need to do is turn
up.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always welcome and
encouraged.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Ayden
Férdeline <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden
Férdeline <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday
4 March 2017 at
19:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Chuck
Gomes <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association
resolution regarding
domain registration
data</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
the invitation to this
association will be
going out on ICANN
letterhead and
facilitated by ICANN
staff, I consider it
only fair that other
invitations be sent
out in the same
manner.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Ayden </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">--------
Original Message
--------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association
resolution regarding
domain registration
data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017
7:40 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017
19:40</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
suggest you
invite them
Ayden. If you
are bothered by
the fact that I
asked staff to
contact the
association I
will cancel my
request of staff
and encourage
others to do
that.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Ayden Férdeline
[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>] </span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March
04, 2017 2:15 PM</span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Gomes, Chuck
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"> gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international
law enforcement
association
resolution
regarding domain
registration
data</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
we are going to
send an invite
letter to this
organisation
requesting their
participation, I
am happy to
provide a list of
other
organisations
whose voices are
missing from this
WG so that ICANN
staff can invite
them to
participate as
well. Thanks.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">--------
Original Message
--------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international
law enforcement
association
resolution
regarding domain
registration
data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March
2017 7:10 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March
2017 19:10</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
well said
Greg.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
seems to me
that we should
reach out to
them and
invite them to
have a
representative
or
representatives
join our WG.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
– Would one of
you please
prepare an
invitation
letter and
identify who
and where we
should send
it.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a> [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Greg
Shatan</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday,
March 04, 2017
11:13 AM</span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Ayden
Férdeline <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>; Volker Greimann <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
RDS PDP WG
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement association resolution
regarding
domain
registration
data</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They
can ask for
anything they
like, it is
not like it
has legal
binding
status. It is
a wish list,
nothing
more..."</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
is no
different than
any other
stakeholder
(or group of
stakeholders).
Even GAC
members. So
their input
should be
accepted on an
equal footing
with any other
input. There
seems to be a
curious amount
of effort
devoted to
discounting
this input,
much of it
based on
identity (or
opinions about
that identity)
rather than
substance.</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
top of giving
due
consideration
to their
input, it may
also be
appropriate to
engage in
outreach and
engagement
with this
organization.
Participation
in the
multistakeholder
process would
be more useful
in the long
run vs.
issuing
resolutions.
Useful for
them, useful
for all of us,
and useful for
the process.</div>
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<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
an INGO of LE
professionals,
there may be
no existing
SO/AC that
would be an
appropriate
"home" for the
IOCP, which
makes it all
the more
important that
they
understand
they are
welcome to
participate,
as well as to
communicate in
other ways
(such as
resolutions).</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international
law
enforcement
association
resolution
regarding
domain
registration
data</div>
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<div
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Time: 3 March
2017 9:21 AM</div>
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Time: 3 March
2017 09:21</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a
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href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good
thing that
police are law
"enforcement"
not
legislators.
They can ask
for anything
they like, it
is not like it
has legal
binding
status. It is
a wish list,
nothing
more...</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Am
02.03.2017 um
19:35 schrieb
Greg Aaron:</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
International
Association of
Chiefs of
Police (IACP)
has issued an
official
resolution
regarding
domain name
registration
data. </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
resolution
requests that
ICANN and
related
parties
provide
“continued
access to
publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these
databases may
conflict with
privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with
the
International
law
enforcement to
assist in the
resolution of
these
potential
conflicts
before
removing or
restricting
law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information;
and… that IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts
to achieve the
goal of
providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law
enforcement
community.”</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
in 1893, the
IACP (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://www.iacp.org"
target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>) is the professional association for
law
enforcement
officers, with
members in 133
countries
worldwide,
primarily
leadership-level
personnel in
national,
state/provincial,
and local
agencies.
"The
Association's
goals are to
advance the
science and
art of police
services; to
develop and
disseminate
improved
administrative,
technical and
operational
practices and
promote their
use in police
work; to
foster police
cooperation
and the
exchange of
information
and experience
among police
administrators
throughout the
world....and
to encourage
adherence of
all police
officers to
high
professional
standards of
performance
and conduct."</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
text of the
full
resolution is
below and
contains the
rationales.
It notes that
loss of access
to the
currently
available data
“would
severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation
in a timely
manner.”</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
document is
attached, and
also at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions"
target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
kindly request
that this be
added to our
bank of
reference
materials.
(Thanks, Lisa
and Michelle.)</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
for Law
Enforcement
Access to
Publicly
Available and
Accurate
Internet
Address
Registration
Data to
include
privacy
protected
registrant
information
and related
Forensic
Resources to
facilitate
investigation
of Cybercrime
and Cyber
Enabled Crime</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
by:
Communications
and Technology
Committee</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
this is an
updated
version of an
expired 2005
adopted
resolution
then submitted
by the
Communications
and Technology
Committee as
CT23.a05 and
adopted at the
112th Annual
Conference;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the lawful
investigation
of Internet
communications
is one of the
most valuable
tools
available to
law
enforcement in
identifying
both the
perpetrators
and victims of
crime; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the Internet
is global in
nature, and as
such, poses
challenges
when
conducting
multiagency
international
investigations, including delays imposed when obtaining international
legal process;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
electronic or
digital
evidence
associated
with the
Internet is
fleeting in
nature, and
law
enforcement
officials must
obtain timely
access to this
information to
fulfill law
enforcement
duties; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
criminals use
the anonymity
and
international
nature of the
Internet, and
the fleeting
nature of
electronic or
digital
evidence, to
thwart law
enforcement
investigations;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
publicly
available
databases
containing
information
involving the
allocation of
Internet
resources and
who they are
assigned to,
such as
Internet
Protocol
address space
and domain
names, are a
critical tool
used by law
enforcement,
and because
these
databases are
public in
nature, allow
law
enforcement
agencies
access to
conduct
investigations
in the most
timely manner
possible; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
allocation of
Internet
resources is
expanding
rapidly due to
impending
exhaustion of
Internet
Protocol
Version 4
address space
and the
subsequent and
simultaneous
implementation
of Internet
Protocol
Version 6 as
well as the
implementation
of numerous
new top level
domains by the
Internet
Corporation
for the
Assigned Names
and Numbers
(ICANN),
accurate and
easily
accessible
registrant
information is
now even more
important to
law
enforcement
than in 2005
when the
original
resolution was
adopted; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
ICANN and its
International
members
involved in
the creation
of policy
consensus and
administration
of this
information
currently are
considering
new registrant
data policy
which may seek
to restrict or
eliminate
fluid public
access due to
business,
privacy, or
data-mining
concerns; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the
elimination or
restriction of
easy fluid
access to this
information
would severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation
in a timely
manner; now
therefore be
it</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
that the
International
Association of
Chiefs of
Police (IACP)
strongly urges
the related
Internet
administration
communities,
including
governments,
regional
Internet
registries,
the Internet
Corporation
for Assigned
Names and
Numbers,
Internet
Service
Providers,
domain-name
registries,
domain-name
registrars,
and Internet
service
providers to
assist law
enforcement by
providing
continued
access to
publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these
databases may
conflict with
privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with
the
International
law
enforcement to
assist in the
resolution of
these
potential
conflicts
before
removing or
restricting
law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information;
and be it</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">FURTHER
RESOLVED, that
the IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts
to achieve the
goal of
providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law
enforcement
community.</div>
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