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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/07/2017 07:36 AM, Volker Greimann
wrote:<br>
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<p>John, I believe your ad-hominem attacks are unwarranted. They
are certainly unwelcome.<br>
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<p>I do not think anyone suggested any organization would not
be legitimate enough to participate. Anyone with an opinion
on the matter can (and should) participate. I merely
suggested that I see it as obvious that the source of an
argument has an impact on the interpretation of the argument
and should not be disregarded. </p>
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To which I agree. We should certainly look at those who have a
direct revenue stream in this have an interest in maintaining as
many people owning domains for as long as possible to maintain
said income stream regardless of the harms externalized by their
actions.<br>
</blockquote>
Really? Having an interest in providing a legitimate service makes
us accessories to whatever people do online now? <br>
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<br>
No, it means you have economic interests that may color your policy
decisions.<br>
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<p>Or would anyone in his right mind consider a Breitbart news
article or a Trump tweet as similarly trustworthy,
significant and helpful as they would a researched and
vetted WSJ article? </p>
</blockquote>
No one cares about your inane political viewpoints. Stop
injecting them into this discussion.<br>
</blockquote>
Directly to the ad-hominem attack. Stop injecting those into this
discussion. I made a valid point that there is value in
differentiating between the original definition of fake news and
actual fact-based news. <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
It's not an ad hominem attack (look up what it means). You keep
bring up snide Breitbart and Trump swipes. That's not why we are
here. Stop it. <br>
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<p>Anyone with something to say can and should contribute, but
we should be free to look at where this argument is coming
from as well. Sometimes what is not being said is as
informative as what is being said, after all.<br>
</p>
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Yes. Tell me, where do you stand on economic conflicts of
interest and how they play out in this policy discussion?<br>
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I do not think providing registration services constitutes a
conflict of interest. Providing harvesting services of whois data
(which current whois use policies already albeit ineffectively
prohibit) does.<br>
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Correct.<br>
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<p> </p>
<p>I also have not seen much issue with legitimate
investigative use cases. If law enforcement in the pursuit
of their duty has a legal right to access the data, they
will in all likelyhood still be able to get at that data,
and I support that in general. Admittedly, under such a
regime, private organizations with no formal law enforcement
powers would have a harder time, and that is something we
should look at once we reach that part of the deliberation.
I personally think that finding the exact "line in the sand"
of who gets what how will be a daunting task, but
worthwhile.<br>
</p>
</blockquote>
Many disagree with this premise that there is such a need to
decide who gets what and that this group should be the one
making that decision if so.<br>
</blockquote>
If you look at the EWG recommendations that form the basis for our
PDP, you will find these questions at the basis of what our group
is tasked to discuss. You may want to have a look at our WG
charter documents.<br>
</blockquote>
And what does that have to do with people disagreeing with the
premise? Yes, I acknowledge there are other points of view.<br>
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<p> </p>
<p>It is a known fact that the right to privacy of individuals
makes the job of law enforcement harder. That is why each
jurisdiction has tried to define the acceptable borders and
intrusions into the individual privacy necessary to fight
specific crime. Law enforcement has specific rights that may
ever vary with the crime that is being investigated. For
example, law enforcement looking at terror suspects may have
significantly more rights to intrude on the privacy of the
suspects than law enforcement fighting traffic violations.
Police may wire-tap a suspect but only after going through
the appropriate process (which will usually require the
approval of a judge).<br>
</p>
<p>And obviously, as an example, private organizations
fighting traffic violations (for example private parking
companies trying to find and fine those illegally using
their parking spaces) have even less rights than state
organizations doing the same for public parking spaces. <br>
</p>
</blockquote>
All analogies uninformed by the actual reality of the subject at
hand.<br>
</blockquote>
Nonetheless valid as they touch upon the same legal question. Who
should have access to what information and under which
requirements. If you want a closer comparison, look at what law
enforcement has to do to get the basically identical, but
non-public customer data from a hosting company.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
I think we have yet to define what non-public data is in this case.
Also relevant is that the nature of how computer crimes are
investigated and dealt with is materially different from traffic
tickets. <br>
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<p> </p>
<p>With regard to your comment on accuracy and privacy, I
think this is misplaced here. I think it is faily clear to
anyone in this group that whois data that is accurate
constitutes PII whereas trash data probably does not (it
might be PII for someone else if the data was stolen). In
many cases I have seen over the years, legitimate users of
domain names have used trash data in what they saw as self
defense as they did not wish their private details to be
published in the whois. While they technically violated
their registration agreements, nearly all felt this was
justified and a "victimless crime" as they could not see and
harm in doing that. And guess what: No one was actually
harmed (except the registrar saddled with the man-hour cost
trying to convince them to update the data "or else").<br>
</p>
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I want to focus on this because it's such a bald statement of
moral turpitude. Let's take a look at what you're actually
saying here. You have a customer who wants privacy but instead
of paying a few bucks for whois privacy protection because you
guys MONETIZED privacy and doing it the right way, you are
letting them violate your policies and ICANNs KNOWINGLY. This
is no "technical violation", it's a conscious and direct one.
You COULD simply offer whois privacy protection as a check box
on registration and NOT monetize it. Then we wouldn't even be
having this discussion. But instead you created an income
stream, people don't want to pay into it, so instead of
following your own policies and ICANN's you knowingly violate
it. All the while criminals do the same thing and use junk
data. This enables them to KEEP BEING CRIMINALS longer making
this not a "victimless crime"... what it makes it is you are
systematically aiding criminals all to protect the whois privacy
income stream.<br>
</blockquote>
I take offense at this attempt to characterize my argument in this
manner. This comment is so far out of bounds, it does not deserve
a response other than: registrants provide data to us for
provision in the whois that we cannot check and have to take at
face value unless we are informed differently. We are not aiding
and abetting criminal activity or allowing customers to violate
our or ICANNs policy. If informed of such violations, we will take
appropriate action.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
You have documented clearly that you ignore ICANN's policies and
likely your own. Take offense all you want but you have put in
writing your own willingness to ignore your own legal agreements.<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:c4fbfe19-f85e-131d-f96e-bf64b0a9c1e2@key-systems.net"
type="cite"> If you are aware of instances where this is not the
case and a registrar knowingly violates policies of ICANN, please
report them to ICANN compliance. <br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite"> <br>
We've known there are bad registrars and registries out there.
</blockquote>
Then report them!<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
We have.<br>
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type="cite">
<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">Namecentral was just disaccredited because it was
nothing more than a front for DDoS for hire services. </blockquote>
So the system actually works.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
In that case.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:c4fbfe19-f85e-131d-f96e-bf64b0a9c1e2@key-systems.net"
type="cite">
<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">There are entire ccTLDs that operate as criminal
service providers. </blockquote>
Do you have evidence or is this something that Trump would tweet?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes but again, stop injecting your inane political opinions into
this discussion. No one cares that you hate Trump.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:c4fbfe19-f85e-131d-f96e-bf64b0a9c1e2@key-systems.net"
type="cite">
<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">We've by and large stopped bothering to report must
of it because complaints of this sort or systematically ignored
most of the time anyway. </blockquote>
So you are aiding and abetting criminal activity or violations
that you know about by not taking action?<br>
</blockquote>
No, we're taking more effective action. I've helped put people in
jail... you just cash the criminals checks.<br>
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type="cite">
<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">Now I see why it persists, because anything that
doesn't victimize you is "victimless". </blockquote>
If a private individual uses a domain name for a legitimate
purpose but does not want to reveal his personal information and
choses to violate our policies and risk suspension, where is the
victim? Other than the registrar who has to use resources to
convince him to update or else?<br>
</blockquote>
We aren't talking about legitimate uses now, are we? Do you make
any attempt to verify legitimate versus illegitimate users when you
let them use fake data? Or do you just say "it's too hard" and just
cash the checks?<br>
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type="cite">
<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">This conversation is starting to feel like having a
debate with tobacco lobbyists on whether cigarettes cause
cancer. Breitbart level credibility indeed. <br>
</blockquote>
Registering domain names causes crimes now? What are you
advocating here? Banning domain name registrations?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
No, they are used in crimes. Are you new to the Internet?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.03.2017 um 02:35 schrieb
allison nixon:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here against
investigative use cases is very interesting.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>People claim to care about privacy and then attempt
to shut down a major aspect of combating cybercrime,
which is a bigger violator of privacy than all the whois
spam put together and multiplied by a million.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To see an individual person denouncing an
organization of many people as somehow not legitimate
enough to participate, while oneself participates-
that's also interesting. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and accurate
PII despite common use of trash data and WHOIS
privacy, also interesting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Something does not add up.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:40 PM,
Patrick Lenihan via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
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wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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face="arial" color="black" size="2">+1 Stephanie; as
a former USA law enforcement officer.
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To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a
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Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data<br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">I hesitate to even venture a
comment on this topic, lest it
generate another 20 comments, but I
am very puzzled about this whole
discussion. I am admittedly much
more familiar with the Canadian
Association of Chiefs of Police, a
lobby group/professional association
which is remarkably similar to this
organization, only on a national
level. OF course any of the police
lobby associations are free to join
us, but is anyone suggesting that we
do not have adequate representation
of law enforcement interests at
ICANN? Do we not have several
representatives of police agencies
on this working group? Law
enforcement organizations regularly
form part of GAC delegations,
certainly our RCMP are often part of
the Canadian delegation to the GAC.
Law enforcement officials have
formed a public safety working
group.....any of these
representatives are presumably
capable of drafting papers for their
national organizations and indeed I
suspect someone has drafted this
document for the International
Association, given the specificity
of the resolutions. I am sure many
national associations will endorse
it and bring it to their own
national governments, who in turn
will forward it to their GAC
delegations. <br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">Police organizations
regularly lobby for legislative
change to facilitate their work. (it
is nevertheless interesting that
this international organization has
a link for contacting your
congressman, <a
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href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/"
target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a>
right under the drop down menu for
what we do). It is not surprising
that they have prepared a resolution
on WHOIS, those of us who have
followed the impact of technology on
police work have seen many similar
resolutions on different issues.
Police face problems of time and
expense, not to mention
constitutional protection. However,
It is not like law enforcement has
not had its views very well
represented at ICANN over many
years. Given, as Michele has pointed
out, that the bar for membership on
this working group is exceedingly
low (show up) it seems to me the
issue we need to worry about is, who
does not have the time and money to
show up.<br>
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<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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2017-03-05 10:57, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
style="border:none;border-top:solid
#b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm">
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chuck
Gomes <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank"><cgomes@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday 5 March
2017 at 15:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank"><michele@blacknight.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">"icann@ferdeline.com"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned that this
could turn into an unending
administrative workload for staff
and would like them to focus their
time in helping us do our
deliberations. I am now sorry I
made the suggestion.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made a good
suggestion on the leadership list
that we encourage all members to
send our latest WG update to any
organizations that may have a
stake in what we are doing and
invite them to join as members or
observers.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
name="m_4596522363738953646_aolmail__MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></a></div>
<div>
<div
style="border:none;border-top:solid
#e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm
0cm 0cm">
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Michele Neylon - Blacknight [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05,
2017 8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>;
Gomes, Chuck <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank"><cgomes@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain registration
data</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply the names and
contact details for organisations
who you think should be invited to
contribute in some form then I’m
sure that we can deal with it. <br>
However so far you haven’t.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have pointed out,
the ICANN processes are open to
everyone. The barrier to entry is
incredibly low. All you need to do
is turn up.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always welcome and
encouraged.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michele</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">--</span></div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mr Michele
Neylon</span></div>
</div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">------------------------------<wbr>-</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
Company No.: 370845</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
style="border:none;border-top:solid
#b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm">
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Ayden Férdeline
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden
Férdeline <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 4 March
2017 at 19:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Chuck Gomes <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
the invitation to this association
will be going out on ICANN
letterhead and facilitated by
ICANN staff, I consider it only
fair that other invitations be
sent out in the same manner.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Ayden </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">--------
Original Message --------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution regarding
domain registration data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:40 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:40</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
suggest you invite them
Ayden. If you are bothered
by the fact that I asked
staff to contact the
association I will cancel my
request of staff and
encourage others to do that.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Ayden Férdeline [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>]
</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March 04, 2017
2:15 PM</span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Gomes, Chuck <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
we are going to send an invite
letter to this organisation
requesting their
participation, I am happy to
provide a list of other
organisations whose voices are
missing from this WG so that
ICANN staff can invite them to
participate as well. Thanks.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">--------
Original Message --------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:10 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:10</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
well said Greg.</span></span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
seems to me that we
should reach out to them
and invite them to have
a representative or
representatives join our
WG.</span></span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
– Would one of you
please prepare an
invitation letter and
identify who and where
we should send it.</span></span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg
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<span
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Saturday, March 04, 2017
11:13 AM</span><br>
<span
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Ayden Férdeline <<a
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<span
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[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding
domain registration data</span></span></div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They
can ask for anything
they like, it is not
like it has legal
binding status. It is a
wish list, nothing
more..."</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
is no different than any
other stakeholder (or
group of stakeholders).
Even GAC members. So their
input should be accepted
on an equal footing with
any other input. There
seems to be a curious
amount of effort devoted
to discounting this input,
much of it based on
identity (or opinions
about that identity)
rather than substance.</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
top of giving due
consideration to their
input, it may also be
appropriate to engage in
outreach and engagement
with this organization.
Participation in the
multistakeholder process
would be more useful in
the long run vs. issuing
resolutions. Useful for
them, useful for all of
us, and useful for the
process.</div>
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<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
an INGO of LE
professionals, there may
be no existing SO/AC that
would be an appropriate
"home" for the IOCP, which
makes it all the more
important that they
understand they are
welcome to participate, as
well as to communicate in
other ways (such as
resolutions).</div>
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<div
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Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at
11:54 AM Ayden
Férdeline <<a
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Volker</div>
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Original Message
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association
resolution
regarding domain
registration data</div>
</div>
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<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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<div
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Time: 3 March 2017
9:21 AM</div>
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Time: 3 March 2017
09:21</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a
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href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></div>
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<a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good
thing that police
are law
"enforcement" not
legislators. They
can ask for anything
they like, it is not
like it has legal
binding status. It
is a wish list,
nothing more...</div>
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<div
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02.03.2017 um
19:35 schrieb Greg
Aaron:</div>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
International
Association of
Chiefs of Police
(IACP) has
issued an
official
resolution
regarding domain
name
registration
data. </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
resolution
requests that
ICANN and
related parties
provide
“continued
access to
publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these databases
may conflict
with privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with the
International
law enforcement
to assist in the
resolution of
these potential
conflicts before
removing or
restricting law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information;
and… that IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts to
achieve the goal
of providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law enforcement
community.”</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
in 1893, the
IACP (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://www.iacp.org"
target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>) is the professional association for
law enforcement
officers, with
members in 133
countries
worldwide,
primarily
leadership-level
personnel in
national,
state/provincial,
and local
agencies. "The
Association's
goals are to
advance the
science and art
of police
services; to
develop and
disseminate
improved
administrative,
technical and
operational
practices and
promote their
use in police
work; to foster
police
cooperation and
the exchange of
information and
experience among
police
administrators
throughout the
world....and to
encourage
adherence of all
police officers
to high
professional
standards of
performance and
conduct."</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
text of the full
resolution is
below and
contains the
rationales. It
notes that loss
of access to the
currently
available data
“would severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation in
a timely
manner.”</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
document is
attached, and
also at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions"
target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
kindly request
that this be
added to our
bank of
reference
materials.
(Thanks, Lisa
and Michelle.)</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
for Law
Enforcement
Access to
Publicly
Available and
Accurate
Internet Address
Registration
Data to include
privacy
protected
registrant
information and
related Forensic
Resources to
facilitate
investigation of
Cybercrime and
Cyber Enabled
Crime</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
by:
Communications
and Technology
Committee</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
this is an
updated version
of an expired
2005 adopted
resolution then
submitted by the
Communications
and Technology
Committee as
CT23.a05 and
adopted at the
112th Annual
Conference; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the lawful
investigation of
Internet
communications
is one of the
most valuable
tools available
to law
enforcement in
identifying both
the perpetrators
and victims of
crime; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the Internet is
global in
nature, and as
such, poses
challenges when
conducting
multiagency
international
investigations,
including delays
imposed when
obtaining
international
legal process;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
electronic or
digital evidence
associated with
the Internet is
fleeting in
nature, and law
enforcement
officials must
obtain timely
access to this
information to
fulfill law
enforcement
duties; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
criminals use
the anonymity
and
international
nature of the
Internet, and
the fleeting
nature of
electronic or
digital
evidence, to
thwart law
enforcement
investigations;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
publicly
available
databases
containing
information
involving the
allocation of
Internet
resources and
who they are
assigned to,
such as Internet
Protocol address
space and domain
names, are a
critical tool
used by law
enforcement, and
because these
databases are
public in
nature, allow
law enforcement
agencies access
to conduct
investigations
in the most
timely manner
possible; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
allocation of
Internet
resources is
expanding
rapidly due to
impending
exhaustion of
Internet
Protocol Version
4 address space
and the
subsequent and
simultaneous
implementation
of Internet
Protocol Version
6 as well as the
implementation
of numerous new
top level
domains by the
Internet
Corporation for
the Assigned
Names and
Numbers (ICANN),
accurate and
easily
accessible
registrant
information is
now even more
important to law
enforcement than
in 2005 when the
original
resolution was
adopted; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
ICANN and its
International
members involved
in the creation
of policy
consensus and
administration
of this
information
currently are
considering new
registrant data
policy which may
seek to restrict
or eliminate
fluid public
access due to
business,
privacy, or
data-mining
concerns; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the elimination
or restriction
of easy fluid
access to this
information
would severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation in
a timely manner;
now therefore be
it</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
that the
International
Association of
Chiefs of Police
(IACP) strongly
urges the
related Internet
administration
communities,
including
governments,
regional
Internet
registries, the
Internet
Corporation for
Assigned Names
and Numbers,
Internet Service
Providers,
domain-name
registries,
domain-name
registrars, and
Internet service
providers to
assist law
enforcement by
providing
continued access
to publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these databases
may conflict
with privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with the
International
law enforcement
to assist in the
resolution of
these potential
conflicts before
removing or
restricting law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information; and
be it</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">FURTHER
RESOLVED, that
the IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts to
achieve the goal
of providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law enforcement
community.</div>
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<pre>66386 St. Ingbert</pre>
<pre>Tel.: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a></pre>
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<pre>Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin</pre>
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<pre>Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534</pre>
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<pre>Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP</pre>
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<pre>Key-Systems GmbH</pre>
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<pre>66386 St. Ingbert</pre>
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<pre>CEO: Alexander Siffrin</pre>
<pre>Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken </pre>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
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Best regards,
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- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
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