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    <p>John, I believe your ad-hominem attacks are unwarranted. They are
      certainly unwelcome.<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <blockquote
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      type="cite">
      <blockquote
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        <p>I do not think anyone suggested any organization would not be
          legitimate enough to participate. Anyone with an opinion on
          the matter can (and should) participate. I merely suggested
          that I see it as obvious that the source of an argument has an
          impact on the interpretation of the argument and should not be
          disregarded. </p>
      </blockquote>
      To which I agree.  We should certainly look at those who have a
      direct revenue stream in this have an interest in maintaining as
      many people owning domains for as long as possible to maintain
      said income stream regardless of the harms externalized by their
      actions.<br>
    </blockquote>
    Really? Having an interest in providing a legitimate service makes
    us accessories to whatever people do online now? <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite"> <br>
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:4f6b34b3-0ad7-ba94-f7a7-373244b9a91b@key-systems.net"
        type="cite">
        <p>Or would anyone in his right mind consider a Breitbart news
          article or a Trump tweet as similarly trustworthy, significant
          and helpful as they would a researched and vetted WSJ article?
        </p>
      </blockquote>
      No one cares about your inane political viewpoints.  Stop
      injecting them into this discussion.<br>
    </blockquote>
    Directly to the ad-hominem attack. Stop injecting those into this
    discussion. I made a valid point that there is value in
    differentiating between the original definition of fake news and
    actual fact-based news. <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite"> <br>
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:4f6b34b3-0ad7-ba94-f7a7-373244b9a91b@key-systems.net"
        type="cite">
        <p>Anyone with something to say can and should contribute, but
          we should be free to look at where this argument is coming
          from as well. Sometimes what is not being said is as
          informative as what is being said, after all.<br>
        </p>
      </blockquote>
      Yes.  Tell me, where do you stand on economic conflicts of
      interest and how they play out in this policy discussion?<br>
    </blockquote>
    I do not think providing registration services constitutes a
    conflict of interest. Providing harvesting services of whois data
    (which current whois use policies already albeit ineffectively
    prohibit) does.<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite"> <br>
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:4f6b34b3-0ad7-ba94-f7a7-373244b9a91b@key-systems.net"
        type="cite">
        <p> </p>
        <p>I also have not seen much issue with legitimate investigative
          use cases. If law enforcement in the pursuit of their duty has
          a legal right to access the data, they will in all likelyhood
          still be able to get at that data, and I support that in
          general. Admittedly, under such a regime, private
          organizations with no formal law enforcement powers would have
          a harder time, and that is something we should look at once we
          reach that part of the deliberation. I personally think that
          finding the exact "line in the sand" of who gets what how will
          be a daunting task, but worthwhile.<br>
        </p>
      </blockquote>
      Many disagree with this premise that there is such a need to
      decide who gets what and that this group should be the one making
      that decision if so.<br>
    </blockquote>
    If you look at the EWG recommendations that form the basis for our
    PDP, you will find these questions at the basis of what our group is
    tasked to discuss. You may want to have a look at our WG charter
    documents.<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:4f6b34b3-0ad7-ba94-f7a7-373244b9a91b@key-systems.net"
        type="cite">
        <p> </p>
        <p>It is a known fact that the right to privacy of individuals
          makes the job of law enforcement harder. That is why each
          jurisdiction has tried to define the acceptable borders and
          intrusions into the individual privacy necessary to fight
          specific crime. Law enforcement has specific rights that may
          ever vary with the crime that is being investigated. For
          example, law enforcement looking at terror suspects may have
          significantly more rights to intrude on the privacy of the
          suspects than law enforcement fighting traffic violations.
          Police may wire-tap a suspect but only after going through the
          appropriate process (which will usually require the approval
          of a judge).<br>
        </p>
        <p>And obviously, as an example, private organizations fighting
          traffic violations (for example private parking companies
          trying to find and fine those illegally using their parking
          spaces) have even less rights than state organizations doing
          the same for public parking spaces. <br>
        </p>
      </blockquote>
      All analogies uninformed by the actual reality of the subject at
      hand.<br>
    </blockquote>
    Nonetheless valid as they touch upon the same legal question. Who
    should have access to what information and under which requirements.
    If you want a closer comparison, look at what law enforcement has to
    do to get the basically identical, but non-public customer data from
    a hosting company.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:4f6b34b3-0ad7-ba94-f7a7-373244b9a91b@key-systems.net"
        type="cite">
        <p> </p>
        <p>With regard to your comment on accuracy and privacy, I think
          this is misplaced here. I think it is faily clear to anyone in
          this group that whois data that is accurate constitutes PII
          whereas trash data probably does not (it might be PII for
          someone else if the data was stolen). In many cases I have
          seen over the years, legitimate users of domain names have
          used trash data in what they saw as self defense as they did
          not wish their private details to be published in the whois.
          While they technically violated their registration agreements,
          nearly all felt this was justified and a "victimless crime" as
          they could not see and harm in doing that. And guess what: No
          one was actually harmed (except the registrar saddled with the
          man-hour cost trying to convince them to update the data "or
          else").<br>
        </p>
      </blockquote>
      I want to focus on this because it's such a bald statement of
      moral turpitude.  Let's take a look at what you're actually saying
      here.  You have a customer who wants privacy but instead of paying
      a few bucks for whois privacy protection because you guys
      MONETIZED privacy and doing it the right way, you are letting them
      violate your policies and ICANNs KNOWINGLY.  This is no "technical
      violation", it's a conscious and direct one.  You COULD simply
      offer whois privacy protection as a check box on registration and
      NOT monetize it.  Then we wouldn't even be having this
      discussion.  But instead you created an income stream, people
      don't want to pay into it, so instead of following your own
      policies and ICANN's you knowingly violate it.  All the while
      criminals do the same thing and use junk data.  This enables them
      to KEEP BEING CRIMINALS longer making this not a "victimless
      crime"... what it makes it is you are systematically aiding
      criminals all to protect the whois privacy income stream.<br>
    </blockquote>
    I take offense at this attempt to characterize my argument in this
    manner. This comment is so far out of bounds, it does not deserve a
    response other than: registrants provide data to us for provision in
    the whois that we cannot check and have to take at face value unless
    we are informed differently. We are not aiding and abetting criminal
    activity or allowing customers to violate our or ICANNs policy. If
    informed of such violations, we will take appropriate action.<br>
    <br>
    If you are aware of instances where this is not the case and a
    registrar knowingly violates policies of ICANN, please report them
    to ICANN compliance. <br>
     <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite"> <br>
      We've known there are bad registrars and registries out there.  </blockquote>
    Then report them!<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">Namecentral was just disaccredited because it was
      nothing more than a front for DDoS for hire services.  </blockquote>
    So the system actually works.<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">There are entire ccTLDs that operate as criminal
      service providers.  </blockquote>
    Do you have evidence or is this something that Trump would tweet?<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">We've by and large stopped bothering to report must of
      it because complaints of this sort or systematically ignored most
      of the time anyway.  </blockquote>
    So you are aiding and abetting criminal activity or violations that
    you know about by not taking action?<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">Now I see why it persists, because anything that
      doesn't victimize you is "victimless".  </blockquote>
    If a private individual uses a domain name for a legitimate purpose
    but does not want to reveal his personal information and choses to
    violate our policies and risk suspension, where is the victim? Other
    than the registrar who has to use resources to convince him to
    update or else?<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite">This conversation is starting to feel like having a
      debate with tobacco lobbyists on whether cigarettes cause cancer. 
      Breitbart level credibility indeed. <br>
    </blockquote>
    Registering domain names causes crimes now? What are you advocating
    here? Banning domain name registrations?<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite"> <br>
      j<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    v<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
      type="cite"> <br>
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:4f6b34b3-0ad7-ba94-f7a7-373244b9a91b@key-systems.net"
        type="cite">
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.03.2017 um 02:35 schrieb
          allison nixon:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote
cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
          type="cite">
          <div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here against
            investigative use cases is very interesting. 
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>People claim to care about privacy and then attempt to
              shut down a major aspect of combating cybercrime, which is
              a bigger violator of privacy than all the whois spam put
              together and multiplied by a million.
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>To see an individual person denouncing an
                organization of many people as somehow not legitimate
                enough to participate, while oneself participates-
                that's also interesting. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and accurate PII
                despite common use of trash data and WHOIS privacy, also
                interesting.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Something does not add up.<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:40 PM,
              Patrick Lenihan via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                  target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font
                  face="arial" color="black" size="2">+1 Stephanie; as a
                  former USA law enforcement officer.  
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5"><br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">----
                        Original Message ----<br>
                        From: Stephanie Perrin &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                          target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>&gt;<br>
                        To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                          target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
                        Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law
                        enforcement association resolution regarding
                        domain registration data<br>
                        <br>
                        <div
id="m_4596522363738953646AOLMsgPart_1.2_338c5306-0470-4406-9031-bbbada6823c7">
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                            <div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
                                  Grande">I hesitate to even venture a
                                  comment on this topic, lest it
                                  generate another 20 comments, but I am
                                  very puzzled about this whole
                                  discussion.  I am admittedly much more
                                  familiar with the Canadian Association
                                  of Chiefs of Police, a lobby
                                  group/professional association which
                                  is remarkably similar to this
                                  organization, only on a national
                                  level.  OF course any of the police
                                  lobby associations are free to join
                                  us, but is anyone suggesting that we
                                  do not have adequate representation of
                                  law enforcement interests at ICANN? 
                                  Do we not have several representatives
                                  of police agencies on this working
                                  group?  Law enforcement organizations
                                  regularly form part of GAC
                                  delegations, certainly our RCMP are
                                  often part of the Canadian delegation
                                  to the GAC.  Law enforcement officials
                                  have formed a public safety working
                                  group.....any of these representatives
                                  are presumably capable of drafting
                                  papers for their national
                                  organizations and indeed I suspect
                                  someone has drafted this document for
                                  the International Association, given
                                  the specificity of the resolutions.  I
                                  am sure many national associations
                                  will endorse it and bring it to their
                                  own national governments, who in turn
                                  will forward it to their GAC
                                  delegations. <br>
                                </font></font></div>
                            <div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
                                  Grande">Police organizations regularly
                                  lobby for legislative change to
                                  facilitate their work. (it is
                                  nevertheless interesting that this
                                  international organization has a link
                                  for contacting your congressman, <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                    rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                    href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/"
                                    target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a>
                                  right under the drop down menu for
                                  what we do).   It is not surprising
                                  that they have prepared a resolution
                                  on WHOIS, those of us who have
                                  followed the impact of technology on
                                  police work have seen many similar
                                  resolutions on different issues. 
                                  Police face problems of time and
                                  expense, not to mention constitutional
                                  protection.  However, It is not like
                                  law enforcement has not had its views
                                  very well represented at ICANN over
                                  many years. Given, as Michele has
                                  pointed out, that the bar for
                                  membership on this working group is
                                  exceedingly low (show up) it seems to
                                  me the issue we need to worry about
                                  is, who does not have the time and
                                  money to show up.<br>
                                </font></font></div>
                            <div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
                            </div>
                            <div
                              class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On
                              2017-03-05 10:57, Michele Neylon -
                              Blacknight wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote>
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                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">That seems a lot saner and
                                    more scalable.</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michele</span></div>
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                                        Michele Neylon</span></div>
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                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
                                     Company No.: 370845</span><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"></span></div>
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                                  <div
                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
                                      style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chuck
                                      Gomes <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
                                        target="_blank">&lt;cgomes@verisign.com&gt;</a><br>
                                      <b>Date: </b>Sunday 5 March 2017
                                      at 15:56<br>
                                      <b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
                                        target="_blank">&lt;michele@blacknight.com&gt;</a>,
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                        target="_blank">"icann@ferdeline.com"</a>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                        target="_blank">&lt;icann@ferdeline.com&gt;</a><br>
                                      <b>Cc: </b><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">&lt;gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org&gt;</a><br>
                                      <b>Subject: </b>RE:
                                      [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
                                      law enforcement association
                                      resolution regarding domain
                                      registration data</span></div>
                                </div>
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                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned that this
                                    could turn into an unending
                                    administrative workload for staff
                                    and would like them to focus their
                                    time in helping us do our
                                    deliberations.  I am now sorry I
                                    made the suggestion.</span></div>
                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made a  good
                                    suggestion on the leadership list
                                    that we encourage all members to
                                    send our latest WG update to any
                                    organizations that may have a stake
                                    in what we are doing and invite them
                                    to join as members or observers.</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></div>
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                                    name="m_4596522363738953646_aolmail__MailEndCompose"><span
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                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span
                                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
                                        Michele Neylon - Blacknight [<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                          rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                          href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
                                          target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05,
                                        2017 8:12 AM<br>
                                        <b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                          rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                          href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                          target="_blank">&lt;icann@ferdeline.com&gt;</a>;
                                        Gomes, Chuck <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                          rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                          href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
                                          target="_blank">&lt;cgomes@verisign.com&gt;</a><br>
                                        <b>Cc:</b> <a
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                                          rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                                        <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re:
                                        [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
                                        law enforcement association
                                        resolution regarding domain
                                        registration data</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <div
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                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply the names and
                                    contact details for organisations
                                    who you think should be invited to
                                    contribute in some form then I’m
                                    sure that we can deal with it. <br>
                                    However so far you haven’t.</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have pointed out,
                                    the ICANN processes are open to
                                    everyone. The barrier to entry is
                                    incredibly low. All you need to do
                                    is turn up.</span></div>
                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always welcome and
                                    encouraged.</span></div>
                                <div
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards</span></div>
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                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michele</span></div>
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                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mr Michele
                                        Neylon</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Intl. <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203072"
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                                          target="_blank">+353 (0) 59
                                           9183072</a></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
                                        Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit
                                        12A,Barrowside Business
                                        Park,Sleaty</span></div>
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                                <div
                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
                                     Company No.: 370845</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
                                <div style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                  #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
                                  0cm">
                                  <div
                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
                                      style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>&gt;
                                      on behalf of Ayden Férdeline &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                        target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden Férdeline
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                        target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Date: </b>Saturday 4 March
                                      2017 at 19:44<br>
                                      <b>To: </b>Chuck Gomes &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
                                        target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Cc: </b>"<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                      [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
                                      law enforcement association
                                      resolution regarding domain
                                      registration data</span></div>
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                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
                                    the invitation to this association
                                    will be going out on ICANN
                                    letterhead and facilitated by ICANN
                                    staff, I consider it only fair that
                                    other invitations be sent out in the
                                    same manner.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Thank you,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Ayden </div>
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                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
                                      RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                      international law enforcement
                                      association resolution regarding
                                      domain registration data</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
                                      Time: 4 March 2017 7:40 PM</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
                                      Time: 4 March 2017 19:40</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
                                        target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                        target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                        target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                        target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                        target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;,
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;</div>
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                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
                                          suggest you invite them
                                          Ayden.  If you are bothered by
                                          the fact that I asked staff to
                                          contact the association I will
                                          cancel my request of staff and
                                          encourage others to do that.</span></span></div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
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                                    <div
                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span
                                            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
                                          Ayden Férdeline [<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                            target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>]
                                        </span></span><span
                                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
                                        <span
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
                                          Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:15
                                          PM</span><br>
                                        <span
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
                                          Gomes, Chuck &lt;<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
                                            target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                        <span
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>;
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                            target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>;
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                            target="_blank">
                                            gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
                                        <span
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
                                          [EXTERNAL] RE:
                                          [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                          international law enforcement
                                          association resolution
                                          regarding domain registration
                                          data</span></span></div>
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                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
                                        we are going to send an invite
                                        letter to this organisation
                                        requesting their participation,
                                        I am happy to provide a list of
                                        other organisations whose voices
                                        are missing from this WG so that
                                        ICANN staff can invite them to
                                        participate as well. Thanks.</div>
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                                          <div
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                                            Ayden </div>
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                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">--------
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                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
                                          RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                          international law enforcement
                                          association resolution
                                          regarding domain registration
                                          data</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
                                          Time: 4 March 2017 7:10 PM</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
                                          Time: 4 March 2017 19:10</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
                                            target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                            target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                            target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;,
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                            target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                            target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                            target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                            target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
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                                        <div
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                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
                                              well said Greg.</span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
                                              seems to me that we should
                                              reach out to them and
                                              invite them to have a
                                              representative or
                                              representatives join our
                                              WG.</span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
                                              – Would one of you please
                                              prepare an invitation
                                              letter and identify who
                                              and where we should send
                                              it.</span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
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                                        </div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span
                                                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
                                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
                                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                rel="noopener
                                                noreferrer"
                                                href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
                                              [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                rel="noopener
                                                noreferrer"
                                                href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg
                                              Shatan</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
                                            <span
                                              class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
                                              Saturday, March 04, 2017
                                              11:13 AM</span><br>
                                            <span
                                              class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
                                              Ayden Férdeline &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                rel="noopener
                                                noreferrer"
                                                href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                                target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;;
                                              Volker Greimann &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                rel="noopener
                                                noreferrer"
                                                href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                                target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                            <span
                                              class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
                                              RDS PDP WG &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                rel="noopener
                                                noreferrer"
                                                href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                                target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                            <span
                                              class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
                                              [EXTERNAL] Re:
                                              [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                              international law
                                              enforcement association
                                              resolution regarding
                                              domain registration data</span></span></div>
                                        <div
                                          class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <blockquote
                                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                            <div
                                              class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They
                                              can ask for anything they
                                              like, it is not like it
                                              has legal binding status.
                                              It is a wish list, nothing
                                              more..."</div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
                                            is no different than any
                                            other stakeholder (or group
                                            of stakeholders). Even GAC
                                            members. So their input
                                            should be accepted on an
                                            equal footing with any other
                                            input.  There seems to be a
                                            curious amount of effort
                                            devoted to discounting this
                                            input, much of it based on
                                            identity (or opinions about
                                            that identity) rather than
                                            substance.</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
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                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
                                            top of giving due
                                            consideration to their
                                            input, it may also be
                                            appropriate to engage in
                                            outreach and engagement with
                                            this organization. 
                                            Participation in the
                                            multistakeholder process
                                            would be more useful  in the
                                            long run vs. issuing
                                            resolutions.  Useful for
                                            them, useful for all of us,
                                            and useful for the process.</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
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                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
                                            an INGO of LE professionals,
                                            there may be no existing
                                            SO/AC that would be an
                                            appropriate "home" for the
                                            IOCP, which makes it all the
                                            more important that they
                                            understand they are welcome
                                            to participate, as well as
                                            to communicate in other ways
                                            (such as resolutions).</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Greg</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div
                                                class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
                                                Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at
                                                11:54 AM Ayden Férdeline
                                                &lt;<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                  rel="noopener
                                                  noreferrer"
                                                  href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                                  target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;
                                                wrote:</div>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">+1
                                                  Volker</div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
                                                      Ayden </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
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                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote
                                                style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">--------
                                                    Original Message
                                                    --------</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
                                                    Re:
                                                    [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                                    international law
                                                    enforcement
                                                    association
                                                    resolution regarding
                                                    domain registration
                                                    data</div>
                                                </div>
                                              </blockquote>
                                              <blockquote
                                                style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
                                                    Time: 3 March 2017
                                                    9:21 AM</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
                                                    Time: 3 March 2017
                                                    09:21</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                      rel="noopener
                                                      noreferrer"
                                                      href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                                      target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                      rel="noopener
                                                      noreferrer"
                                                      href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                                      target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good
                                                  thing that police are
                                                  law "enforcement" not
                                                  legislators. They can
                                                  ask for anything they
                                                  like, it is not like
                                                  it has legal binding
                                                  status. It is a wish
                                                  list, nothing more...</div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Am
                                                    02.03.2017 um 19:35
                                                    schrieb Greg Aaron:</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote
                                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
                                                      International
                                                      Association of
                                                      Chiefs of Police
                                                      (IACP) has issued
                                                      an official
                                                      resolution
                                                      regarding domain
                                                      name registration
                                                      data. </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
                                                      resolution
                                                      requests that
                                                      ICANN and related
                                                      parties provide
                                                      “continued access
                                                      to publicly
                                                      available
                                                      databases
                                                      concerning the
                                                      allocation of
                                                      Internet
                                                      resources, and in
                                                      situations where
                                                      the maintenance of
                                                      these databases
                                                      may conflict with
                                                      privacy
                                                      regulation,
                                                      business concerns,
                                                      or data-mining
                                                      prevention
                                                      efforts, fully
                                                      consult with the
                                                      International law
                                                      enforcement to
                                                      assist in the
                                                      resolution of
                                                      these potential
                                                      conflicts before
                                                      removing or
                                                      restricting law
                                                      enforcement access
                                                      to this critical
                                                      information; and…
                                                      that IACP
                                                      membership
                                                      coordinate the
                                                      above efforts to
                                                      achieve the goal
                                                      of providing
                                                      consistent, equal,
                                                      and uniform access
                                                      to the
                                                      above-referenced
                                                      resources for all
                                                      of the
                                                      international law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      community.”</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
                                                      in 1893, the IACP
                                                      (<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                        rel="noopener
                                                        noreferrer"
                                                        href="http://www.iacp.org"
                                                        target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>)
                                                       is the
                                                      professional
                                                      association for
                                                      law enforcement
                                                      officers, with
                                                      members in 133
                                                      countries
                                                      worldwide,
                                                      primarily
                                                      leadership-level
                                                      personnel in
                                                      national,
                                                      state/provincial,
                                                      and local
                                                      agencies.  "The
                                                      Association's
                                                      goals are to
                                                      advance the
                                                      science and art of
                                                      police services;
                                                      to develop and
                                                      disseminate
                                                      improved
                                                      administrative,
                                                      technical and
                                                      operational
                                                      practices and
                                                      promote their use
                                                      in police work; to
                                                      foster police
                                                      cooperation and
                                                      the exchange of
                                                      information and
                                                      experience among
                                                      police
                                                      administrators
                                                      throughout the
                                                      world....and to
                                                      encourage
                                                      adherence of all
                                                      police officers to
                                                      high professional
                                                      standards of
                                                      performance and
                                                      conduct."</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
                                                      text of the full
                                                      resolution is
                                                      below and contains
                                                      the rationales. 
                                                      It notes that loss
                                                      of access to the
                                                      currently
                                                      available data
                                                      “would severely
                                                      cripple or
                                                      eliminate the
                                                      ability of law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      agencies to
                                                      conduct
                                                      investigation in a
                                                      timely manner.”</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
                                                      document is
                                                      attached, and also
                                                      at: <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                        rel="noopener
                                                        noreferrer"
                                                        href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions"
                                                        target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
                                                      kindly request
                                                      that this be added
                                                      to our bank of
                                                      reference
                                                      materials. 
                                                      (Thanks, Lisa and
                                                      Michelle.)</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
                                                      for Law
                                                      Enforcement Access
                                                      to Publicly
                                                      Available and
                                                      Accurate Internet
                                                      Address
                                                      Registration Data
                                                      to include privacy
                                                      protected
                                                      registrant
                                                      information and
                                                      related Forensic
                                                      Resources to
                                                      facilitate
                                                      investigation of
                                                      Cybercrime and
                                                      Cyber Enabled
                                                      Crime</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
                                                      by: Communications
                                                      and Technology
                                                      Committee</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      this is an updated
                                                      version of an
                                                      expired 2005
                                                      adopted resolution
                                                      then submitted by
                                                      the Communications
                                                      and Technology
                                                      Committee as
                                                      CT23.a05 and
                                                      adopted at the
                                                      112th Annual
                                                      Conference; and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      the lawful
                                                      investigation of
                                                      Internet
                                                      communications is
                                                      one of the most
                                                      valuable tools
                                                      available to law
                                                      enforcement in
                                                      identifying both
                                                      the perpetrators
                                                      and victims of
                                                      crime; and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      the Internet is
                                                      global in nature,
                                                      and as such, poses
                                                      challenges when
                                                      conducting
                                                      multiagency
                                                      international
                                                      investigations,
                                                      including delays
                                                      imposed when
                                                      obtaining
                                                      international
                                                      legal process; and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      electronic or
                                                      digital evidence
                                                      associated with
                                                      the Internet is
                                                      fleeting in
                                                      nature, and law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      officials must
                                                      obtain timely
                                                      access to this
                                                      information to
                                                      fulfill law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      duties; and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      criminals use the
                                                      anonymity and
                                                      international
                                                      nature of the
                                                      Internet, and the
                                                      fleeting nature of
                                                      electronic or
                                                      digital evidence,
                                                      to thwart law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      investigations;
                                                      and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      publicly available
                                                      databases
                                                      containing
                                                      information
                                                      involving the
                                                      allocation of
                                                      Internet resources
                                                      and who they are
                                                      assigned to, such
                                                      as Internet
                                                      Protocol address
                                                      space and domain
                                                      names, are a
                                                      critical tool used
                                                      by law
                                                      enforcement, and
                                                      because these
                                                      databases are
                                                      public in nature,
                                                      allow law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      agencies access to
                                                      conduct
                                                      investigations in
                                                      the most timely
                                                      manner possible;
                                                      and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
                                                      allocation of
                                                      Internet resources
                                                      is expanding
                                                      rapidly due to
                                                      impending
                                                      exhaustion of
                                                      Internet Protocol
                                                      Version 4 address
                                                      space and the
                                                      subsequent and
                                                      simultaneous
                                                      implementation of
                                                      Internet Protocol
                                                      Version 6 as well
                                                      as the
                                                      implementation of
                                                      numerous new top
                                                      level domains by
                                                      the Internet
                                                      Corporation for
                                                      the Assigned Names
                                                      and Numbers
                                                      (ICANN), accurate
                                                      and easily
                                                      accessible
                                                      registrant
                                                      information is now
                                                      even more
                                                      important to law
                                                      enforcement than
                                                      in 2005 when the
                                                      original
                                                      resolution was
                                                      adopted; and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      ICANN and its
                                                      International
                                                      members involved
                                                      in the creation of
                                                      policy consensus
                                                      and administration
                                                      of this
                                                      information
                                                      currently are
                                                      considering new
                                                      registrant data
                                                      policy which may
                                                      seek to restrict
                                                      or eliminate fluid
                                                      public access due
                                                      to business,
                                                      privacy, or
                                                      data-mining
                                                      concerns; and</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
                                                      the elimination or
                                                      restriction of
                                                      easy fluid access
                                                      to this
                                                      information would
                                                      severely cripple
                                                      or eliminate the
                                                      ability of law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      agencies to
                                                      conduct
                                                      investigation in a
                                                      timely manner; now
                                                      therefore be it</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
                                                      that the
                                                      International
                                                      Association of
                                                      Chiefs of Police
                                                      (IACP) strongly
                                                      urges the related
                                                      Internet
                                                      administration
                                                      communities,
                                                      including
                                                      governments,
                                                      regional Internet
                                                      registries, the
                                                      Internet
                                                      Corporation for
                                                      Assigned Names and
                                                      Numbers, Internet
                                                      Service Providers,
                                                      domain-name
                                                      registries,
                                                      domain-name
                                                      registrars, and
                                                      Internet service
                                                      providers to
                                                      assist law
                                                      enforcement by
                                                      providing
                                                      continued access
                                                      to publicly
                                                      available
                                                      databases
                                                      concerning the
                                                      allocation of
                                                      Internet
                                                      resources, and in
                                                      situations where
                                                      the maintenance of
                                                      these databases
                                                      may conflict with
                                                      privacy
                                                      regulation,
                                                      business concerns,
                                                      or data-mining
                                                      prevention
                                                      efforts, fully
                                                      consult with the
                                                      International law
                                                      enforcement to
                                                      assist in the
                                                      resolution of
                                                      these potential
                                                      conflicts before
                                                      removing or
                                                      restricting law
                                                      enforcement access
                                                      to this critical
                                                      information; and
                                                      be it</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">FURTHER
                                                      RESOLVED, that the
                                                      IACP membership
                                                      coordinate the
                                                      above efforts to
                                                      achieve the goal
                                                      of providing
                                                      consistent, equal,
                                                      and uniform access
                                                      to the
                                                      above-referenced
                                                      resources for all
                                                      of the
                                                      international law
                                                      enforcement
                                                      community.</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">******************************<wbr>****</span></span></div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Greg
                                                          Aaron</span></span></div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Vice-President,
                                                          Product
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                        <pre>Key-Systems GmbH</pre>
                        <pre>Im Oberen Werk 1</pre>
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                        <pre>Key-Systems GmbH</pre>
                        <pre>Im Oberen Werk 1</pre>
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