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Really? Having an interest in providing a legitimate service
makes us accessories to whatever people do online now? <br>
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<br>
No, it means you have economic interests that may color your
policy decisions.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
If we look at the economic interest, we'd rather have no domains
involved in any shady business. The cost of dealing with compliance,
complaints and reports revolving around such domains greatly
surpasses the bottom line from the registration of such domain
names. <br>
We see such domain registrations as cost factor, not as benefit.<br>
<br>
So the economic incentive to support such registrations is less than
zero.<br>
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<p>Or would anyone in his right mind consider a Breitbart
news article or a Trump tweet as similarly trustworthy,
significant and helpful as they would a researched and
vetted WSJ article? </p>
</blockquote>
No one cares about your inane political viewpoints. Stop
injecting them into this discussion.<br>
</blockquote>
Directly to the ad-hominem attack. Stop injecting those into
this discussion. I made a valid point that there is value in
differentiating between the original definition of fake news and
actual fact-based news. <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
It's not an ad hominem attack (look up what it means). You keep
bring up snide Breitbart and Trump swipes. That's not why we are
here. Stop it. <br>
</blockquote>
They are the best current examples of influencing thepublic opinion
with lies and misdirection, so I won't. <br>
Calling my viewpoints inane is very much an attack directed at me
personally. <br>
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<p> </p>
<p>I also have not seen much issue with legitimate
investigative use cases. If law enforcement in the pursuit
of their duty has a legal right to access the data, they
will in all likelyhood still be able to get at that data,
and I support that in general. Admittedly, under such a
regime, private organizations with no formal law
enforcement powers would have a harder time, and that is
something we should look at once we reach that part of the
deliberation. I personally think that finding the exact
"line in the sand" of who gets what how will be a daunting
task, but worthwhile.<br>
</p>
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Many disagree with this premise that there is such a need to
decide who gets what and that this group should be the one
making that decision if so.<br>
</blockquote>
If you look at the EWG recommendations that form the basis for
our PDP, you will find these questions at the basis of what our
group is tasked to discuss. You may want to have a look at our
WG charter documents.<br>
</blockquote>
And what does that have to do with people disagreeing with the
premise? Yes, I acknowledge there are other points of view.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I completely agree that the outcome of this PDP will be that there
should not be an RDS with gated access. But this group _is_ the
entity tasked with making the recommendation to the GNSO and the
board on exactly that question. <br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:c4fbfe19-f85e-131d-f96e-bf64b0a9c1e2@key-systems.net"
type="cite"> Nonetheless valid as they touch upon the same legal
question. Who should have access to what information and under
which requirements. If you want a closer comparison, look at
what law enforcement has to do to get the basically identical,
but non-public customer data from a hosting company.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
I think we have yet to define what non-public data is in this
case. Also relevant is that the nature of how computer crimes are
investigated and dealt with is materially different from traffic
tickets. <br>
</blockquote>
Ultimately, the investigating entities have to look for the relevant
data in a database. Whois is public, car registration databases are
not. <br>
Another example of public data vs. non-public data can be seen as
Michele mentioned by comparing the whois output for a gTLD domain
and a ccTLD domain. As we all know gTLD, I'll only reference a
ccTLD:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=greimann.uk#whois-results">https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=greimann.uk#whois-results</a><br>
<br>
As you can see there is exactly two personal data points that ware
made public: My name and my entity status. And if I wanted to, I
could even have those hidden under Nominet-sponsored privacy
policies. <br>
<br>
Yet somehow, mysteriously, cybercrime under .uk domain names is
investigated and cracked down on....<br>
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I take offense at this attempt to characterize my argument in
this manner. This comment is so far out of bounds, it does not
deserve a response other than: registrants provide data to us
for provision in the whois that we cannot check and have to take
at face value unless we are informed differently. We are not
aiding and abetting criminal activity or allowing customers to
violate our or ICANNs policy. If informed of such violations, we
will take appropriate action.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
You have documented clearly that you ignore ICANN's policies and
likely your own. Take offense all you want but you have put in
writing your own willingness to ignore your own legal agreements.<br>
</blockquote>
Evidence? Or just tweet-level accusation?<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:51ccc898-4a04-4a17-cd6b-9d57d7eba261@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">So you are aiding and abetting criminal activity or
violations that you know about by not taking action?<br>
No, we're taking more effective action. I've helped put people in
jail... you just cash the criminals checks.<br>
</blockquote>
To pay for the costs they cause us. If we could filter them out at
the start, we would.<br>
<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">Now I see why it persists, because anything that
doesn't victimize you is "victimless". </blockquote>
If a private individual uses a domain name for a legitimate
purpose but does not want to reveal his personal information and
choses to violate our policies and risk suspension, where is the
victim? Other than the registrar who has to use resources to
convince him to update or else?<br>
</blockquote>
We aren't talking about legitimate uses now, are we? Do you make
any attempt to verify legitimate versus illegitimate users when
you let them use fake data? Or do you just say "it's too hard"
and just cash the checks?<br>
</blockquote>
You seem to be implying that there is a magic stick out there
somewhere that registrars have access to but are refusing to use
that would magically allow us to differentiate legitimate customers
and criminals?<br>
<br>
Well, I hate to break your bubble, but that does not exist. Just as
you do not know if someone is buying a gun to defend himself, to
hunt or to commit a crime.<br>
<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:79422f4d-f6f2-8f0f-923d-cf8333654f9d@bambenekconsulting.com"
type="cite">This conversation is starting to feel like having
a debate with tobacco lobbyists on whether cigarettes cause
cancer. Breitbart level credibility indeed. <br>
</blockquote>
Registering domain names causes crimes now? What are you
advocating here? Banning domain name registrations?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
No, they are used in crimes. Are you new to the Internet?<br>
</blockquote>
All of them? Guns are used in crimes, cars are used in crimes.
Anything is used in crimes. What is your point?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.03.2017 um 02:35 schrieb
allison nixon:<br>
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cite="mid:CACLR7w+xUDSvNS7W31uZi2+W8c1z52nmQH=0yQAc0NL5f1tDmg@mail.gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">The level of resistance here against
investigative use cases is very interesting.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>People claim to care about privacy and then attempt
to shut down a major aspect of combating cybercrime,
which is a bigger violator of privacy than all the
whois spam put together and multiplied by a million.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To see an individual person denouncing an
organization of many people as somehow not
legitimate enough to participate, while oneself
participates- that's also interesting. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Claims that WHOIS data is sensitive and accurate
PII despite common use of trash data and WHOIS
privacy, also interesting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Something does not add up.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:40 PM,
Patrick Lenihan via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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face="arial" color="black" size="2">+1 Stephanie;
as a former USA law enforcement officer.
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From: Stephanie Perrin <<a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>><br>
To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a
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Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:36 am<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international
law enforcement association resolution
regarding domain registration data<br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">I hesitate to even venture
a comment on this topic, lest it
generate another 20 comments, but
I am very puzzled about this whole
discussion. I am admittedly much
more familiar with the Canadian
Association of Chiefs of Police, a
lobby group/professional
association which is remarkably
similar to this organization, only
on a national level. OF course
any of the police lobby
associations are free to join us,
but is anyone suggesting that we
do not have adequate
representation of law enforcement
interests at ICANN? Do we not
have several representatives of
police agencies on this working
group? Law enforcement
organizations regularly form part
of GAC delegations, certainly our
RCMP are often part of the
Canadian delegation to the GAC.
Law enforcement officials have
formed a public safety working
group.....any of these
representatives are presumably
capable of drafting papers for
their national organizations and
indeed I suspect someone has
drafted this document for the
International Association, given
the specificity of the
resolutions. I am sure many
national associations will endorse
it and bring it to their own
national governments, who in turn
will forward it to their GAC
delegations. <br>
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<div><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">Police organizations
regularly lobby for legislative
change to facilitate their work.
(it is nevertheless interesting
that this international
organization has a link for
contacting your congressman, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="http://capwiz.com/theiacp/issues/"
target="_blank">http://capwiz.com/theiacp/<wbr>issues/</a>
right under the drop down menu for
what we do). It is not
surprising that they have prepared
a resolution on WHOIS, those of us
who have followed the impact of
technology on police work have
seen many similar resolutions on
different issues. Police face
problems of time and expense, not
to mention constitutional
protection. However, It is not
like law enforcement has not had
its views very well represented at
ICANN over many years. Given, as
Michele has pointed out, that the
bar for membership on this working
group is exceedingly low (show up)
it seems to me the issue we need
to worry about is, who does not
have the time and money to show
up.<br>
</font></font></div>
<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div
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2017-03-05 10:57, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a
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<b>Subject: </b>RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain registration
data</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m concerned that this
could turn into an unending
administrative workload for
staff and would like them to
focus their time in helping us
do our deliberations. I am now
sorry I made the suggestion.</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika has made a good
suggestion on the leadership
list that we encourage all
members to send our latest WG
update to any organizations that
may have a stake in what we are
doing and invite them to join as
members or observers.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Michele Neylon - Blacknight
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-freetext"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March
05, 2017 8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>;
Gomes, Chuck <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank"><cgomes@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]
Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding domain
registration data</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Ayden</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If you supply the names and
contact details for
organisations who you think
should be invited to contribute
in some form then I’m sure that
we can deal with it. <br>
However so far you haven’t.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As others have pointed out,
the ICANN processes are open to
everyone. The barrier to entry
is incredibly low. All you need
to do is turn up.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Input is always welcome and
encouraged.</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards</span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michele</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mr Michele
Neylon</span></div>
</div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">------------------------------<wbr>-</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Blacknight
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,<wbr>Ireland
Company No.: 370845</span></div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Ayden Férdeline
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden
Férdeline <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 4 March
2017 at 19:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Chuck Gomes <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain registration
data</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
the invitation to this
association will be going out on
ICANN letterhead and facilitated
by ICANN staff, I consider it
only fair that other invitations
be sent out in the same manner.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Ayden </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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Original Message --------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain registration
data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:40 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:40</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
suggest you invite them
Ayden. If you are
bothered by the fact that
I asked staff to contact
the association I will
cancel my request of staff
and encourage others to do
that.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b></span><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">
Ayden Férdeline [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">mailto:icann@ferdeline.com</a>]
</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, March 04, 2017
2:15 PM</span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>To:</b>
Gomes, Chuck <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Cc:</b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] RE:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding
domain registration data</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">If
we are going to send an
invite letter to this
organisation requesting
their participation, I am
happy to provide a list of
other organisations whose
voices are missing from this
WG so that ICANN staff can
invite them to participate
as well. Thanks.</div>
</div>
<div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">-
Ayden </div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
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class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
</div>
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</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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Original Message --------</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement association
resolution regarding
domain registration data</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Local
Time: 4 March 2017 7:10 PM</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">UTC
Time: 4 March 2017 19:10</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Very
well said Greg.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
seems to me that we
should reach out to
them and invite them
to have a
representative or
representatives join
our WG.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Marika/Lisa
– Would one of you
please prepare an
invitation letter and
identify who and where
we should send it.</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Chuck</span></span></div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"><span
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_size"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span></div>
<div>
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[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international law
enforcement
association resolution
regarding domain
registration data</span></span></div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">"They
can ask for anything
they like, it is not
like it has legal
binding status. It is
a wish list, nothing
more..."</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">This
is no different than any
other stakeholder (or
group of stakeholders).
Even GAC members. So
their input should be
accepted on an equal
footing with any other
input. There seems to
be a curious amount of
effort devoted to
discounting this input,
much of it based on
identity (or opinions
about that identity)
rather than substance.</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">On
top of giving due
consideration to their
input, it may also be
appropriate to engage in
outreach and engagement
with this organization.
Participation in the
multistakeholder process
would be more useful in
the long run vs. issuing
resolutions. Useful for
them, useful for all of
us, and useful for the
process.</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">As
an INGO of LE
professionals, there may
be no existing SO/AC
that would be an
appropriate "home" for
the IOCP, which makes it
all the more important
that they understand
they are welcome to
participate, as well as
to communicate in other
ways (such as
resolutions).</div>
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Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at
11:54 AM Ayden
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Subject:
Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
international
law enforcement
association
resolution
regarding domain
registration
data</div>
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<div
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Time: 3 March
2017 9:21 AM</div>
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Time: 3 March
2017 09:21</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_gmailmsg">Good
thing that police
are law
"enforcement" not
legislators. They
can ask for
anything they
like, it is not
like it has legal
binding status. It
is a wish list,
nothing more...</div>
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<div
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02.03.2017 um
19:35 schrieb
Greg Aaron:</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
International
Association of
Chiefs of
Police (IACP)
has issued an
official
resolution
regarding
domain name
registration
data. </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">The
resolution
requests that
ICANN and
related
parties
provide
“continued
access to
publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these
databases may
conflict with
privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with
the
International
law
enforcement to
assist in the
resolution of
these
potential
conflicts
before
removing or
restricting
law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information;
and… that IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts
to achieve the
goal of
providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law
enforcement
community.”</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Founded
in 1893, the
IACP (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://www.iacp.org"
target="_blank">www.iacp.org</a>) is the professional association for
law
enforcement
officers, with
members in 133
countries
worldwide,
primarily
leadership-level
personnel in
national,
state/provincial,
and local
agencies.
"The
Association's
goals are to
advance the
science and
art of police
services; to
develop and
disseminate
improved
administrative,
technical and
operational
practices and
promote their
use in police
work; to
foster police
cooperation
and the
exchange of
information
and experience
among police
administrators
throughout the
world....and
to encourage
adherence of
all police
officers to
high
professional
standards of
performance
and conduct."</div>
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
text of the
full
resolution is
below and
contains the
rationales.
It notes that
loss of access
to the
currently
available data
“would
severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation
in a timely
manner.”</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_m-8753655803420240241msoplaintext">The
document is
attached, and
also at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions"
target="_blank">http://www.theiacp.org/<wbr>Resolutions</a> </div>
<div
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">I
kindly request
that this be
added to our
bank of
reference
materials.
(Thanks, Lisa
and Michelle.)</div>
<div
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<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal"> </div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Support
for Law
Enforcement
Access to
Publicly
Available and
Accurate
Internet
Address
Registration
Data to
include
privacy
protected
registrant
information
and related
Forensic
Resources to
facilitate
investigation
of Cybercrime
and Cyber
Enabled Crime</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">Submitted
by:
Communications
and Technology
Committee</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
this is an
updated
version of an
expired 2005
adopted
resolution
then submitted
by the
Communications
and Technology
Committee as
CT23.a05 and
adopted at the
112th Annual
Conference;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the lawful
investigation
of Internet
communications
is one of the
most valuable
tools
available to
law
enforcement in
identifying
both the
perpetrators
and victims of
crime; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the Internet
is global in
nature, and as
such, poses
challenges
when
conducting
multiagency
international
investigations, including delays imposed when obtaining international
legal process;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
electronic or
digital
evidence
associated
with the
Internet is
fleeting in
nature, and
law
enforcement
officials must
obtain timely
access to this
information to
fulfill law
enforcement
duties; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
criminals use
the anonymity
and
international
nature of the
Internet, and
the fleeting
nature of
electronic or
digital
evidence, to
thwart law
enforcement
investigations;
and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
publicly
available
databases
containing
information
involving the
allocation of
Internet
resources and
who they are
assigned to,
such as
Internet
Protocol
address space
and domain
names, are a
critical tool
used by law
enforcement,
and because
these
databases are
public in
nature, allow
law
enforcement
agencies
access to
conduct
investigations
in the most
timely manner
possible; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHERAS,
allocation of
Internet
resources is
expanding
rapidly due to
impending
exhaustion of
Internet
Protocol
Version 4
address space
and the
subsequent and
simultaneous
implementation
of Internet
Protocol
Version 6 as
well as the
implementation
of numerous
new top level
domains by the
Internet
Corporation
for the
Assigned Names
and Numbers
(ICANN),
accurate and
easily
accessible
registrant
information is
now even more
important to
law
enforcement
than in 2005
when the
original
resolution was
adopted; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
ICANN and its
International
members
involved in
the creation
of policy
consensus and
administration
of this
information
currently are
considering
new registrant
data policy
which may seek
to restrict or
eliminate
fluid public
access due to
business,
privacy, or
data-mining
concerns; and</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">WHEREAS,
the
elimination or
restriction of
easy fluid
access to this
information
would severely
cripple or
eliminate the
ability of law
enforcement
agencies to
conduct
investigation
in a timely
manner; now
therefore be
it</div>
<div
class="m_4596522363738953646aolmail_MsoNormal">RESOLVED,
that the
International
Association of
Chiefs of
Police (IACP)
strongly urges
the related
Internet
administration
communities,
including
governments,
regional
Internet
registries,
the Internet
Corporation
for Assigned
Names and
Numbers,
Internet
Service
Providers,
domain-name
registries,
domain-name
registrars,
and Internet
service
providers to
assist law
enforcement by
providing
continued
access to
publicly
available
databases
concerning the
allocation of
Internet
resources, and
in situations
where the
maintenance of
these
databases may
conflict with
privacy
regulation,
business
concerns, or
data-mining
prevention
efforts, fully
consult with
the
International
law
enforcement to
assist in the
resolution of
these
potential
conflicts
before
removing or
restricting
law
enforcement
access to this
critical
information;
and be it</div>
<div
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RESOLVED, that
the IACP
membership
coordinate the
above efforts
to achieve the
goal of
providing
consistent,
equal, and
uniform access
to the
above-referenced
resources for
all of the
international
law
enforcement
community.</div>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
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Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
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Best regards,
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- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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